LinkBack URL
About LinkBacksThat was my first impression.Originally Posted by blokeinkent
Still, it's nice they've at least updated it from the horrible case they tried to cram all the old hardware in.
That was my first impression.
Still, it's nice they've at least updated it from the horrible case they tried to cram all the old hardware in.
Perhaps they could sellotape 256GB of RAM and 4TB of NVMe to it and charge an extra $8,000.But it's an Apple "pro" stand
I thought the mesh was two perforated plates superimposed at first, but it looks more like they've pecked in with a ball-end end mill on both sides. Looks neat, but that's going to need a lot of thickness - and it's useless for structure, that's handled perfectly well by the stainless (and maybe chrome plated?) frame. I also wonder why the fans have such large hubs? Either apple have got it wrong, or literally every other fan manufacturer has missed something
The biggest environmental impact for the case will be the aluminium energy requirements - cutting fluid gets recycled anyway
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/0...macpro_itunes/... It relies on an Intel Xeon processor with as many as 28 CPU cores, supporting up to 1.5TB of RAM and up to 4TB of SSD storage. The 300 watt processor is supported by a 1.4kW power supply. There's also a mix of PCIe 4.0 expansion slots.
I don't mean to link to a competing news source and i didn't watch the stream, but surely this is a mis-type. Intel isn't expecting to have 4.0 till at least 2020/2021 for high performance desktop CPUs...right?
They're likely a 'hybrid' fan. The mac pro is using a lot of the principles used in servers with regard to channelled air flow which usually relies on high pressure fans, which are usually a little thicker in servers. We all know that server fans aren't exactly quiet so what Apple (or their fan supplier) have likely done is changed the fan blade profile/diameter etc to keep the high pressure and using that extra thickness to reduce the noise/rotation speed etc.
Claiming is the word though.
Any company which glues and solders all their products so they can't be upgraded hardly has any green credentials.
Never pay attention to PR words: instead look at actual actions.
And when it comes to actions, Apple's corporate culture is 100% planned obsolescence consumerists junk with a high price tag.
$199.... for a VESA adapter??? It's aluminum, not titanium.
Processors aren't out so there's no pricing to work out how much you're being gouged on them. The closest current Xeon W to that 8/16 base model is £1100 on scan and $1200 on newegg though.
Releasing a native '6k' monitor and saying its intended to master 4k content is a bit weird, isn't it? Non-integer upscaling or non-fullscreen use, I guess?
It's a positive that they have reverted back to the older style Mac Pro casing - looks much nicer and eminently more practical..but that price, wow it's just crazy.
I may not be the target market now but I have been in the past, and I bought a Mac Pro back in 2009. That had dual xeons, Nvidia 8800GT, 16gb ram and 1tb of disk space, and it was an absolute bagain for £1600...you couldn't build a machine yourself of that spec for that money at the time, and as I was buying through my business I was actually paying 17.5% less than that since we could reclaim the VAT. It was a brilliant machine that lasted me until 2016 with my only upgardes being graphics cards & adding SSDs.
Skip forward today and even with inflation, the base model is nearly 3 times the cost, and vs the top end consumer kit will likely have a similar performance gap in % terms. Crazy.
Apple really lost their way after Steve Jobs died. Each year their pricing becomes less and less competitive, their products become less innovative and ultimately less appealing. Such a shame.
Apple pricing has never been competitive, but when they're on their game it doesn't need to be as the rest couldn't offer what they did especially running OS X.
Last time Apple began to disappear up itself it was saved by the second coming of Jobs. Not an option this time.
i'd disagree with "never" and replace that with "rarely" - they have on occasion been compettive and in some cases the cheapest on the market for the quality of hardware you get. Again in that similar timescale, around 2006 their macbooks were cheaper than equivalent quality Windows devices by around £200 (£100 by the time you add on a Windows licence), and Windows was officially supported via bootcamp.
iPads have seen a spell of being the most competitively priced tablets soon after that, and even the Mac Mini was an oddly low priced item for it's size and specs for a while.
not anymore though and i grant you that the vast majority have been heavily overpriced (notably the mobile and iMac range). You really do have to take quality into account thougn, particularly with their laptops - all metal solid builds vs the cheap plastics of most Windows machines made a huge difference at the time.
Ground Control to Major Tom, I think you are 100% correct. The brand was simplicity and being a stand-alone product with no ots components. However, they can't follow that ideology anymore as the consumer wants things here and now. they may have a large value as a company but they don't have the resources to build an entire computer that can do what the people who buy this cheese grater will use it for
So $6k for the base system that comes with 1 256gb ssd and this is being touted as being a good system for editing 4/8k videos which are huge files, and on top of that the base specs aren't that brilliant either. Just doing a rough calculation on upgrades etc and fully loaded you're probably looking at upwards of $40k!
A thicker fan is helpful as it lets you have a steeper pitch while retaining a sensible chord, to give both low RPM and high airflow, but every fan on the market these days (including those optimised for pressure for heatsinks or radiators) has a much smaller hub in proportion to the overall diameter. If apple had the hub smaller they'd have more blade area, and so move more air at similar noise levels.
You'll need some screen space for the toolbars if you're editing a 4k image/video
Not necessarily, there are reasons you would go for a larger hub (or more accurately a larger diameter cover over the hub in this case) when you look at fluid dynamics (air is basically a fluid in this instance). It's probably (I've only 'touched' on fluid dynamics so limited knowledge) causing a low pressure point behind the hub which would then pull the air in towards it (think upside down 'Y' shape) and as such give a tighter air flow path, which is better for the design of the air flow in the mac pro.
I'm sure the designers of the fan have their reasons whatever it is, hell it could just be they found most of the 'air noise' was coming from near the hub and blocked it off lol.
The larger hub would also mean the air has to move further to fill the gap. Aeroacoustic noise is proportional to a high power of the flow speed, so unless they really messed up the hub design then it's dominated by the blade extremities as the air is moving faster there - it's just a really odd design choice for a company that claims the engineering prowess that apple does
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote