AMD X570 chipset motherboards begin to reach retailers

[3dcandy]

Passive is ALWAYS possible, it's how big the heatsink needs to be and if it's capable of dissipating the heat in the space it's given is the issue... just look at the next mac pro, technically they're passively cooled as they don't have their own fan and rely on the case fans, which is basically how most current motherboard chipsets are cooled.

The thing is if I'm buying a new pc (and in my case I would be changing to amd from intel) I would be looking at 'future proofing' so I get as much life out of it as possible so at the moment at least that means x570. I do 3D etc so obviously I'd be picking the 16c/32t cpu

As I like to make 'upgrades' when I upgrade I'd also be going pcie4 m2 ssd's for the os and scratch disk as that seems like a natural progression from sata ssd's, cost allowing pcie4 seems the more obvious option and as you say they have more performance and as such run hotter so that's why I'm 'concerned' over the shields (which weren't that good on pcie3 ssds) on the m2 slots. The shield would block cooling to the ssd passive coolers, so I'm curious as to why some brands have made them so you can't even run without the shields... It's not like your average user is going to remove the standard ssd cooler for the motherboard one when it would in most cases void your warranty.

I've seen a few tidbits around about the better boards have removeable shields that integrate with the fans/heatpipes to help. The Gigabyte one for example the ssd has cooling built in to stop throttling. I think it is just a case of waiting for an in depth review and then seeing which board fits the bill. It seems that Intel aren't jumping on the pci4 wagon as cooling is an issue, especially as they seem fab limited already and won't want to use smaller processes to mitigate heat output. The chipset on the X570 is rated for 13w continuous and around 16w peak, which *should* be easy to cool passively

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[DanceswithUnix]

I am confused by the networking options. single or dual 1g (one intel and one realtek) 1x 1g and 1x 2.5 or 5g. the final option seems to be 1 x 1g 1x 2.5g and an addin card for 10g.
Why do all the boards over a certain price all have wifi? I would rather have no wifi and a single 10g port. it would save some cost and be good for future proofing
On a mainstream platform I can't see many people taking advantage of multiple network ports.
Multiple network ports will be a good option for virtualization especially if you opt for the 12 core 24 thread processor.

WiFi is cheap, so not surprising it gets added though I try to avoid boards that have it. Given a 2.5GbE or 5GbE interface should quite happily plug into a 1GbE switch you should only really need that one socket and not bother with a 1GbE interface at all. But then some people probably have a tick box of "Has gigabit ethernet" or they particularly want an Intel network chip.

[kalniel]

How dare you bring sexuality into the argument...
I thought the nails were on point....

AMD sponsored nails..

[lodore]

WiFi is cheap, so not surprising it gets added though I try to avoid boards that have it. Given a 2.5GbE or 5GbE interface should quite happily plug into a 1GbE switch you should only really need that one socket and not bother with a 1GbE interface at all. But then some people probably have a tick box of "Has gigabit ethernet" or they particularly want an Intel network chip.

I can see the logic in that. I try to avoid boards with wifi as well as I wouldn't use it but can't see many boards without wifi which is a problem for me.

[3dcandy]

I can see the logic in that. I try to avoid boards with wifi as well as I wouldn't use it but can't see many boards without wifi which is a problem for me.

Can always disable the wifi - but yeah it's a cost that's not always needed

[Ed10]

There don't seem to be any ATX Gigabyte X570 Pro Wifi anywhere. Maybe retailers think the price gap between Pro and Ultra is too small to justify stocking it?