the chip it's self is ok ..
but it's the way it reacts with some of the older motherboards that has kept me on a 1700 x370 ..
apparently some are getting loads of errors .
the chip it's self is ok ..
but it's the way it reacts with some of the older motherboards that has kept me on a 1700 x370 ..
apparently some are getting loads of errors .
What does it matter now if men believe or no?
What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
To murmur in pity that my words were true
(Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)
To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....
Made me seriously consider building a new PC from scratch. As flearider above said, I did read about some issues that don't look very appealing, and the business of updating the BIOS of affordable B450 boards seems pretty convoluted, so I'm still on the fence.
Yes but, it would've been nicer if we didn't have to put up with the normal issues that always seem to accompany an AMD release, they don't do them any favors.
Not really. It was massively hyped up, and doesn't hold up to the boost clocks advertised, let alone intel level overclocking. Those expecting 5GHz will probably be disappointed. At the same time it was still good enough for me to order a 3600 which should be a big step up from my 3570k. I was originally considering the 3700X but with low boosts anyway the 3600 seems to give most of the performance for the most affordable pricing. Going budget on other components also mean that instead of like an upgrade rate of ~7 years or so, I can upgrade to either a new CPU or a whole new platform at say 4-5 years if necessary when there's a bunch of new technologies being worked on such as DDR5, PCIe5 and 6, USB4, AM5 and maybe wait for those to mature more.
I'd say it was worth the wait for competing performance and more affordability with lesser known vulnerabilities, but the core i7 still seems to be better than the 3700x for those completely focused on squeezing the most gaming performance at the mid-high end. But then at that level I may be tempted to go for the underdog when it was better multicore performance elsewhere. It's not likely intel was giving us much progress except addition cores when it was necessary due to AMD.
To sum up, not quite reaching expectations, but still great chips.
To be fair for most people the 3600 is well good and it works well in older motherboards if the BIOS is up to date. 6c12t is ample for most people. And asus showing that some x470 boards support some pcie4 functionality is excellent...
For me my next build is more about a decent amount of ram and decent nvme ssd rather than cores and threads
Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!
A good job by AMD....not perfect but much, much better. I can't blame Intel for what they have been doing as they have had no real competition and now that it has arrived, game on and hopefully better pricing and better performance all around.
The one area lacking is overclocking as it looks like 4.2 to 4.4GHz all core is about max on the new Ryzen's which to be honest I just cannot understand. The other thing is the pricing of the X570 motherboards....ouch! are they expensive or what!..starting at £200 for low to £300 for mid and $400 and above for high end....Thank god for the B450 and X470...as apparently ASUS have worked out how to give PCIe Gen 4 speeds to certain B450 and X470 motherboards via a BIOS update.
Bottom line, great for the consumers as we finally have competition and that can only be a good thing...roll on Intel 10nm next year sometime...
Having just splashed out on a Core i9 9900 for my Hackintosh I haven't given Ryzens any much thought.
Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!
I was keeping my expectations muted, and so far I'm liking what I'm seeing. Intel has failed to tempt me into upgrading my i7-3770k because of their prices, but with Ryzen now offering similar per-core performance and more cores for the same price, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on an upgrade this autumn
Absolutely. I'll be dropping in either a 3700X or 3800X, to replace my 1700, when the prices have come down a little.
Seems everything is coming good at once, to me Zen2 is a no brainer as I most to video/photography work with some gaming. Mix that with ram prices are dropping to make my 32gb or 64gb plan possible.
Will probably be a 3700 for me, will be a massive jump from my 3570k
high clockspeeds (aka 5-6ghz) doesnt mean good performance. look at AMD FX-series. 5ghz easy on air, they performed pretty rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish.
also, AMD uses great silicone. makes my breasts look much bigger.
joking aside, hopefully as yields increase we can get to 4.5-4.6ghz on something like a 3700x.
Impressed with the cpu's, A little disappointed with 570 motherboard prices. Seems a bit of a price hike just to add PCI-E 4 but at least there are other options around it.
Unlike Intel,Usually have to buy a new board just because they add an extra few pins.
I'm waiting to see what the 16/32 Ryzen 9 3950x has to offer. The X570 board prices have totally turned me off. One option is to get a 3700x when prices come down below $240.The other option is to wait for Ryzen 3 AM5 in 2020/2021.The way the China/Taiwan trade war is going. I may as well buy now before the world truly goes to hell.
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