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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    That NVidia marketing has done a brilliant job in brainwashing people to believe that RTX == real-time raytracing. It isn't - it's a clever way to take a minimal implementation to deliver select effects on top of largely rasterised graphics without allowing the noise and inaccuracies from the minimal implementation to be too obvious.

    Real-time ray/path tracing may be the future, but the current "RTX" implementation is only an initial stab at it with the current limited resources that can be economically (debatable, at that) applied. It's just smoke and mirrors at the moment, and I'm not prepared to pay for it.

    In the meantime there is still value in improving rasterisation performance - frame-time consistency, lag and minimised jitter are extremely important; turning up eye-candy on an inadequately capable rig causes major and minor stutters that cause me to feel motion sick, and RTX is something that makes this worse and not better.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Ha ha whats Ray Tracing?

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Mine does, but I'd rather they make it so the RTX 2060 is SLI enabled so I can get another at some point. I know one more powerful card is better than two less powerful cards, but there's something about multi GPU that I just like

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Does it "need" ray-tracing? No.

    Do I want it? Not if there's much of either a price premium or performance hit.

    Would it even be on the criteria list on which I based the choice of next GPU? Frankly, no. The only thing I can conceive I might use it for is gaming, and I have enough other things that give me a problem with modern gaming for R-T to even be a slow-moving and extremely distant blip on my "needs" radar.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    No, I couldn't care less, modern engines do a perfectly adequate job of faking realistic lighting for the purposes of playing games.
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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Not going to lie, after seeing Minecraft with the raytracing mod I do want it.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Ray-what-now?

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    As of this moment, no. When it's time for me to upgrade a few years from now, I'll reassess the need.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Yes, it already does. I think ray tracing is the biggest advance in graphics in years. Obviously more games need to start supporting it.
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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Yes it will due to being (probably) a 4080 or 5080ti (depending on when I choose to replace my 1080ti (which laughably will do RT).

    Will I switch on RT. Of course, I feel sad when I look a the puddles in BF5 without it

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    At the moment RTX is popcorn with no butter. I really want too see 2080 ti with 16GB-32GB of vram of gddr6-hbm2/3. Having more vram would help more than fancy lighting.
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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

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    (which laughably will do RT).
    In what? Have you tested it? The reviews I've seen suggest that your 1080Ti will do Ray-Tracing, but it's really really slow.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Yes, I am already spoilt using it in games on my 2080Ti.
    It is the future, Even for consoles.
    Would love to see it from AMD,Intel and Nvidia using MCM in future.
    Have a separate die for ray tracing,Another for A.I. attached to the main gpu instead of trying to cram it all onto a massive die that costs a fortune.

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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

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    (which laughably will do RT).
    In what? Have you tested it? The reviews I've seen suggest that your 1080Ti will do Ray-Tracing, but it's really really slow.
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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    no ... I'm not paying for something that's not quiet there yet ... what do you think I am a Nvidia fanboi ?
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    Re: QOTW: Does your next GPU need to support ray tracing?

    Yes, but only because 1080p/midrange cards don't exist anymore.

    Hopefully, by 2022, somebody will release a midrange card, and by then I assume raytracing tech will have matured enough to be feasible. That's when I'm getting a new card.

    I'm happy with my rx580 for now

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