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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Slowly moving to AIO water coolers as they are generally better in my mind. Not had any leaks or issues and tend to just be the same noise without the ramping up and down of fans...

    But... that's just my choice at moment and most of the watercoolers have been second hand
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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    I'm not really sold on AIO's but then I've only had experience with a 120mm corsair unit, it didn't cool as well as a good dual tower air cooler.

    But to answer the question, air cooled. Less things to go wrong, easy install and works well.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetzki View Post
    I'm not really sold on AIO's but then I've only had experience with a 120mm corsair unit, it didn't cool as well as a good dual tower air cooler.

    But to answer the question, air cooled. Less things to go wrong, easy install and works well.
    Found it to be slightly worse but much quieter.....
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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Found it to be slightly worse but much quieter.....
    My AIO is reasonable quiet (I don't notice constant background noise unless it's a Vega64 cranking up like it's on the runway) and performance is definitely better than my old air cooler (at way higher cost which is not proportionate to the advantages gained) but there are three concerns. Firstly, if the pump fails or it leaks, that is it done. With a big heat sink air cooler if the fan fails, you still have a big heat sink and some air movement from the other fans. You'll notice something is up likely before it goes critical. Games will throttle, you'll see your temps are high and the first thing you'll look at once you've determined it's not software is the cooler. If the pump goes on the AIO, it probably turns into an insulator as the water just sits there, nice and hot over the CPU and it'll get hot very fast, possibly running into a forced, BIOS driven shutdown. Secondly, this mode of failure means you probably want to be replacing it when the pumps start to be come unreliable. Unfortuantely, there's not that much real world data out there and I've yet to find any MTBF data on my pump. Thirdly, When you do upgrade the CPU, it's a lot of money for a new one and the odds are your model is going to be obselete and you'll not be able to get a new bracket / fixings for the inevitable Intel socket change.... another reason to go AMD.... So that's a lot of money for a new cooler in with the upgrade cost. For me, that has been the icing on the cake that stopped me upgrading last time as I wanted to put the liquid cooler in at the same time rather than disassemble the whole thing to get the mobo out to fit the bracket if I bought the cooler later on.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    I once liquid cooled a VHS in the middle of the night, hopefully the pc will be air all the way

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Air.

    Not yet had a problem cooling a CPU up to now using air. Even my OC'd 8700k (4.9 all cores)is fine on a Noctua NH-U14s (push/pull). Never seen it go above 80C during testing (AVX test apps)and usually around 50C during gaming.

    Might give liquid cooling a try one day (out of interest), should I upgrade from a medium sized tower to a full sized tower at some point.
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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Neither. Fanless all the way. No leaks, dust or noise

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    AIO, few reasons.

    1. I have never heard one above a graphics card fans.
    2. It's easy to fit.
    3. The weight is carried by the case and not the motherboard, decent air coolers are not light.

    I actually don't think temp wise it makes a massive difference between an AIO or good air cooler, custom water cooled would be my preference but I'm quite obviously too lazy to go down that road.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Air - better longevity over AIO.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Quote Originally Posted by Top_gun View Post
    Air - better longevity over AIO.
    I'm not sure how you can qualify that statement to be perfectly honest, my last AIO lasted 9 years and was still working fine when I upgraded. I didn't have to swap it out for a fresh one, however I'm too lazy to clean off the paste and reapply my own when I can just buy a new one. It would be the exact same thing with an air cooler. Chances probably are a new socket would make both of them obsolete prior to them failing.

    The only thing that is easier about an air cooler is that they have less parts to fail, but I've never found an issue with either option.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Water-cooling can be as quiet as a good air cooler.

    Water-cooling can cool as well as a good air cooler.

    Water-cooling can be as cheap as a good air cooler.

    What it can't be is all of those things at once.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Obviously air. I only want to build my PC once, not a million times per year

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Since moving to an AIO many, many years ago I haven't looked back. I just like the way they keep a overclocked CPU cool and with the latest crop 360mm AIO's they are fairly quiet as well. Currently using a Corsair H150i Pro 360mm AIO and it just does the job so well on my overclocked CPU (8700K to 4.9GHz). I just leave the Mag Lev fans in quiet mode, the pump at medium and even when it auto ramps up it is quiet.

    There's much to be said about the simplicity of AIR coolers and some of the best more than keep up with AIO's but for me the huge hunk of metal hanging of the CPU never looked great and was always a pain when you had to work on the PC. Thankfully in all my years I have never had an AIO fail but I am sure this does happen.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    Water-cooling can be as quiet as a good air cooler.

    Water-cooling can cool as well as a good air cooler.

    Water-cooling can be as cheap as a good air cooler.

    What it can't be is all of those things at once.
    Sort of not true. As a single purchase or AIO setup you are correct...but you go with a custom setup things change. Especially over time in terms of cost.

    A good water custom water cooling loop isn't as quiet as an air cooler...it destroys it with nearly no noise what-so ever. It's cooling capacity, when properly built, is far superior to air cooling in every way. Now price for a custom loop setup that will do all those things properly is not cheaper then air cooling as a single purchase. I cannot argue that. However when using a custom loop you can carry over everything, with the sometimes exception of the water block. So once invested in a good custom loop set up, your costs go down considerably.

    I have made the investment into water cooling a long time ago. With 2 120mm x 3 (360mm) with a thickness of 80mm I have all the cooling capacity one could ask for even in a tropical environment like Hawaii. For these reasons I will continue to liquid cool both my CPU and GPU for the foreseeable future.

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Only ever used air. In the early days when I was still interested in pushing systems to the limit as a hobby, I was quite interested in phase change cooling but the cost stopped me.

    Is peltier still a thing?

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    Re: QOTW: Will your next PC be air- or liquid-cooled?

    Just ordered my first AIO "DeepCool Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 240 EX", to replace the "Be Quiet! Pure Rock" I've been using for a few years.

    - Much prefer the way it looks
    - Creates room for me to vertically mount my GPU and look even nicer
    - A much better air cooler would've been huge and taken up a lot of room in my Meshify C case

    I'm just hoping the performance lives up to expectations!

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