Dyson ends 'not commercially viable' electric car project

[philehidiot]

But that's not an electric car. It's a plug-in hybrid, not designed to opetate very long on pure electric. It's designed to offer an electric drive-train, with small batteries msinly supporting maximising fuel efficiency, using the engine to power the drive train, and/or charge batteries with maeasures like regenerative breaking recovering some electrical charge from braking.

But a true EV it ain't, and it's not really fair to judge it as such.

For many of us with serioys concerns about EV rsnge, that kind of hybrid (and similar) might currently be a better bet than pure EV which, it seems to me, either don't have the necessary range, or are too expensive (by far) for the mass market.

My dad bought a hybrid like this and I took the piss.

Whilst he does drive very old-man ish (always had, he was once pulled over for driving too slowly) he gets insanely good fuel economy out of it. Longer journeys it's not as good but the stop-start is pretty smooth.

I think these may be the way forward for the time being but the future is electric.... once we get the clean power generation, which is gonna be a while coming.

[Saracen999]

My dad bought a hybrid like this and I took the piss.

Whilst he does drive very old-man ish (always had, he was once pulled over for driving too slowly) he gets insanely good fuel economy out of it. Longer journeys it's not as good but the stop-start is pretty smooth.

I think these may be the way forward for the time being but the future is electric.... once we get the clean power generation, which is gonna be a while coming.

I entirely agree that electric is the future ....provided the issues can be solved. And that is probably just a matter of time, but .... how much time?

I think part of the problem is that an 'ideal' car is very personal, and circumstance-dependent. What suits my needs may be utterly wrong for you. Someone living in an inner city may need very shirt runs only, while a rural dweller needs a car to get anywhere and do anything. I'm sort-of hybrid - much of the time, doing 25 miles a day would be plenty, but there are periodic occasions when I need 125 miles in a journey, and less frequent but still periodic trips where I need 300+. I need a car capable of all that, without lengthy recharge stops, if you can find an available charger on yoyr journey without going miles out of the way to find it.

And all that needs to be at a price-point more or less comparable to current ICE cars, and then I need reassurance of longevity, performance and price of batteries. I don't just need a car with a decent battery life for two or three years, but for 10, 15 maybe 20 years.

I can get all that in ICE, but electric? Not currently. And until I can, I'm not buying. Wjile EV's are getting better, and cheaper, they're still nowhere near what I need. Or want.

[DanceswithUnix]

But that's not an electric car. It's a plug-in hybrid, not designed to opetate very long on pure electric.

The plug in bit is key though, I know someone who owns one and they do plug it in at night and they do work within the car's round trip range. So for them a 200 mile range would on a daily basis be wasted up-front battery expense, and the petrol engine is a range extender.

Mild hybrids which can't go far at all on their little 48V battery should be more common. My start/stop car has most of the technology and hence downside of cost and reliability, without the extra battery and power electronics to allow it to provide electric motion which would help cover the lack of torque pulling away with a small 1.4l turbo engine when the turbo hasn't spun up yet.

[Roobubba]

"Massive Brexit Bellend Turns Out To Have Been Massive Liar"

Colour me very surprised.

[Roobubba]

Just for clarity, this nonsense about short battery life on EVs is so outdated now as to be utterly risible.

Now, cost of a car with a decent range if you routinely do 200+ mile trips, that is a valid area of concern. It's rapidly getting there, though.

[mobit]

Not surprised in the least that a vacuum cleaner manufacturer (which is a motor with a fan, and some plastic tubing) fails to produce something as complex as a car.

[AC81]

Just for clarity, this nonsense about short battery life on EVs is so outdated now as to be utterly risible.

If you look at the numbers of how batterys loose performance in the cold weather though. Actually, it's still a valid concern. As is thier affordability.

Once again, just like wind farms. All the energy is being put into one technology while other viable alternatives are ignored.
There needs to be more investment and infastructure put into hydrogen powered cars, of which there is already a production model available. But no one can buy them as there's no where to fill them up.