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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by dylanlaw79 View Post
    If they increase the prices anymore it will be cheaper to buy a new car!
    Without any real competition from AMD at the high-end, I doubt Nvidia will be cutting prices any time soon...

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    If AMD have a big Navi, they be wise to release it after Nvidia have played their hand.
    But of course if either are lacklustre it don't matter much, but it could be cool if big Navi exist and was the bomb.
    I do so love disruptions, unless it is myself that get it, cuz i have tried that and then its not all that cool.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Ray tracing currently gives a massive hit to performance, so I can easily see a 50% uplift there.
    This is what I suspect. Raytracing "beta" is over.

    Games will be roughly playable now, hence 50% improvement.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    The first game I've not managed to get 60fps with Ultra everything, using my 2080, is Anno 1800. On a 3440x1440 ultrawide.
    As like 1.5% of gamers (steam hw stats) use a 4K monitor I'd say that's not nvidia's priority. Ray tracing will be where the performance gains will be .
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJim View Post
    Without any real competition from AMD at the high-end, I doubt Nvidia will be cutting prices any time soon...
    Depends if they want to keep the playable ray tracing speeds to high end cards or not. If AMD can do playable rates on console level hardware nVidia are going to have to either bring down the price of high end or bring faster ray tracing to mid range cards - which is all I'd be interested in as otherwise I don't need more pixel pushing.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Sales of the 5700XT must be scaring someone at Nvidia then. Convenient leak or what?!

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by daddacool View Post
    Sales of the 5700XT must be scaring someone at Nvidia then. Convenient leak or what?!
    I don't think it's got anything to do with the 5700XT, that's far too near term to be a concern for Ampere, *if* there's any intent behind these it'll be more about the console spec leaks.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    7nm isn't a magic bullet, if it was that good then the radeon7 would have been better - it was only ~20% better than V64 at the same power
    It was, but Vega 20 has over 4 times the fp64 compute of Vega 10 used in the Vega 64. That's a lot of baggage for a consumer product.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Good point from GamersNexus in a video from earlier today - this probably isn't a lie but it almost certainly comes with a big asterisk attached. The 50% uplift is probably referring to something very specific like RT performance.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    Based on "3080", my guess....

    40% performance increase (so it just edges out the 2080 Ti)
    30% efficiency increase (30% less power draw)
    $799 / £749 launch price (same as 2080, so they can argue it offers "incredible value")
    With availability in late April / early May
    It won't be incredible value but I'll be interested in upgrading from a 1070 to the 3080 if it beats out the 2080ti for under £700, hope AMD can release something worthwhile but they haven't for so long, the 5700 XT was interesting but with driver issues I steered clear, it'll get good eventually once it's dated however

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Yes, Ampere Lineup is going to be 50% faster than current Turing GPUs as they’re built on the 7nm process. The next-generation GPU lineup will be launched in the second half of 2020. As we’ve already seen before, AMD has adopted the process with its RDNA based Navi GPUs – the RX 5700 series.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Can't wait to see how much of their efforts in power consumption reduction will make it into their next mid-range boards.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by loftie View Post
    ....

    In the near future....
    buy a ferrari to race round a track because it's cheaper than buying a PC to virtually race a ferrari round a track

    I take your point but .... not even close. I nearly bought a used Ferrari some years ago ....until I got quotes (from an authorised source - no doubt 3rd party would be cheaper, on labour at least) for a few things :-

    - new exhaust (which it needed) - £3500
    - new engine (if needed) - minimum £30k
    - service - £8k. Which would likely be needed twice a year.

    You get the idea. Needless to say, I decided that the £40k second hand Ferrari wasn't such a bargain after all. Those prices are about 20 years old, by the way.

    With cars like that, it's not just the buying, it's the running costs.
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen999 View Post
    - new engine (if needed) - minimum £30k
    That chimes with the old joke about Italian car build quality: You buy an amazing engine, they throw the rest of the car in for free

    But yeah, exotic ownership is all about service costs. That's where the MX5 is awesome, just about everything can be bought second hand off ebay for £30 and fitted with a 14mm spanner (once you free up the rusty bolts holding it in place). Replacement engine, £300 off ebay.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere GPU tipped to deliver 50pc performance gain

    I'm glad I skipped on this gen of GPU's, looking forward to what transpires this year, but my thinking atm is to wait until next year, by then we should clearly see how RTX is being implemented, thinking of SLI and how that faded to nothing, we should see the cards/drivers etc being fully stable and optimised far better by 2021.

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