The problem with flood defences is that it will just flood somewhere else. Squeeze the river somewhere and it will just overflow somewhere else. The underlying drivers of flooding i.e. poor urban drainage and increasing climate change are much harder and more costly to reverse. There are limited success stories of smart/sustainable drainage being implemented in select towns but the money just isn't there to transform old Victorian/20th Century drainage across the country (and world).
Fixed that for you!Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Flood planes exist for a reason and these days are usually designed in. Building on them will always be ill-advised.
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ik9000 (19-02-2020)
lol, yeah I wouldn't be surprised at the brown envelopes.Fixed that for you!
Flood planes exist for a reason and these days are usually designed in. Building on them will always be ill-advised.
I was talking about Lower Earley which I believe is quite close to where you live. There was an obvious floodplain when those houses were built in the 80's, which has since been built on in a big way. I moved into a house which was nowhere near the flood waters, they were getting a bit close by the time I left. I believe my old house is now officially part of the floodplain, I wonder how it fared in the weekend rains (googling the area it looks like the place got generally hit quite hard).
TBH I don't think that is brown envelope, just that Wokingham council don't give a monkeys about anyone who doesn't live actually within the town of Wokingham, they are just punters to milked for revenue whilst providing a minimum of service in return. The whole "will they flood or cause other people to flood" question will get the same shrug as eg "shall we build more schools".
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[QUOTE=Ttaskmaster;1043893]Putting out droughty wild fires? They're less flood planes, though, and more just a tea cup in a fire storm.
Lol, yes, I know, none of that is what you meant. :-)
It's actually more the flood planes alongside the A33, upon which Kennett Island and the industrial/retail estates were built. The local water utilities undertaker pretty much screamed at the council not to build there, but palms were greased and developers were let loose on the land...
They're kinda intertwined with RBC, though, who definitely do the whole brown envelope thing. Same as the proposed "garden village" South of J11 - Definitely greasing going on there, and with national government also hopping aboard as they've just realised how much money 15,000 homes can make.
TBH, new weather kit still probably won't be as accurate as the local barometer readings on my watch, which we do use to forecast bad weather.
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atemporal (02-03-2020)
The problem is people cant see the disconnect between this flooding andf their tax cuts, or lifestyle. Woe betide the leader who stands up and says increased car prices, petrol prices, cost of flights, consumer goods . We have to get back to some sort of war time rationing to bring our emissions down. I've done my bit , no car, no flights for 12 years, no avocados. Now lets see the jet-away every day happy campers don their Hair shirts (Gucci $480)I suspect a large chunk of Yorkshire and south Wales would (justifiably) prefer 1.2bn to be spent on flood defences.
It is great that the Met Office can predict these storms, and it definitely saves lives because people know not to travel etc, but equally its small comfort for those who have been flooded out two / three times in six months
The Met Office is only part-funded by public money. Also, cost-benefit analyses demonstrate that the money spent on the Met is an investment (its weather forecasts provide significant economic benefits to various sectors).I suspect a large chunk of Yorkshire and south Wales would (justifiably) prefer 1.2bn to be spent on flood defences.
It is great that the Met Office can predict these storms, and it definitely saves lives because people know not to travel etc, but equally its small comfort for those who have been flooded out two / three times in six months
why does anyone still live in York? It's always flooding? The answer is move the houses not divert the river.
Sooooo many things we should be spending this on instead... even just on the tech front...anyone know if our nuclear subs have upgraded from xp yet?
they'll need new Killer net drivers to do so
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