Mindfactory data shows AMD outselling Intel 87 to 13 per cent

[DanceswithUnix]

Has been a trial? You mean difficult to source etc. or to build?

Trying to find a pre built machine has been tricky. You can easily get a gaming ryzen machine with glass sides and covered in LEDs to show off the 2070 gpu. Not something suitable for an engineer to run simulations in their office which wants lots of cores, plenty of fast ram and the cheapest GPU that can take three display port monitors.

For servers the range seemed quite limited and high end, and at this point I just wanted some cheap tat for a test environment. So in the end I threw a 3400G on a B450 board and put it in a 2U case.

PC Specialist were pretty much the only game in town for buying the workstations, but their RAM was tripe for AMD use so they struggled to supply 3200MHz DDR4. I hope by now they have found some sane ram. But hats off to them for at least doing an AMD workstation build.

[Xlucine]

Intel have misfired on process. By the looks of it, nVidia haven't done a lot better either. Both are doing incredible design work to make up for it, but AMD seem to have a large process advantage and when it's paired with good design they're quite rightly taking the lead.

It's a different situation with nvidia - after all, they aren't developing any new processes. The 20 series launched ages ago, and at they time they judged (not unreasonably) that they didn't need to shell out for the new fancy process as the usual cheap one was good enough

[kalniel]

It's a different situation with nvidia - after all, they aren't developing any new processes. The 20 series launched ages ago, and at they time they judged (not unreasonably) that they didn't need to shell out for the new fancy process as the usual cheap one was good enough

Yeah I didn't mean just about process manufacture but choice as well - I don't know what happened between nVidia and TSMC but missing out on their 7nm was not a great move.

[DontBeKarma]

In the meantime in the OEM world and business purchase, Intel is still outselling AMD. And those numbers are really big. It is hard to change the habitude.

This 100%. Walk into any best buy and you'll see *most* computers there are still Intel. It's not enthusiast hardware that makes the money, it's what most people buy, which happens to be mainstream "U" SKU laptops. And Intel still has the high ground in that field. The worst mainstream 8th gen laptop i5 Intel has is equal to AMDs r7 3700u, so no wonder they're still holding strong

[Xlucine]

This 100%. Walk into any best buy and you'll see *most* computers there are still Intel. It's not enthusiast hardware that makes the money, it's what most people buy, which happens to be mainstream "U" SKU laptops. And Intel still has the high ground in that field. The worst mainstream 8th gen laptop i5 Intel has is equal to AMDs r7 3700u, so no wonder they're still holding strong

1) You're making stuff up - the ryzen 7 3000U was way faster than 8th gen i5s


2) Intel sucks hard in the U field - ryzen 4000U is as fast as intel 10th gen H series. Anyone buying an intel U series today isn't doing it because of benchmarks