Apple announces two year x86 to Arm Mac CPU transition period

[pp05]

re: potential repair issues

Aren't we already there with all-in-ones? They are effectively laptop parts.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

re: potential repair issues

Aren't we already there with all-in-ones? They are effectively laptop parts.

MacBooks are going kaput due to one single voltage regulator,which overheats,and destroys the CPU. Since the SSD was soldered,they put a "special" port on the motherboard,which needed an proprietry tool,which only they issued,to pull the data off it. With the newest MacBooks,they removed the ports.

Apple also charges a huge "tax" for its laptops,ie,look at how much a 16" MacBook Pro with a Core i7 9750H costs!

[DanceswithUnix]

Google then tried with chromebooks. Thats failing into a smouldering heap, but not quite as dramatically as MS. Kinda clinging on by the fingernails at the moment, saved only by Android app compatibility.

Actually ChromeOS was saved by American schools where they seem to be the dominant devices.

My son has converted an old Windows laptop into a ChromeOS machine by installing Cloudready onto it. The machine has 2GB of ram and an Atom 8500 CPU, far too gutless for modern Windows but seems usable again in ChromeOS.

Edit: We do have an old Chromebook kicking around here. The reviews for it were quite interesting as the ARM chip in is was cited as a big improvement over the Celeron that the previous generation used making it more responsive as well as having better battery life. The graphics of the Tegra SoC seemed rather wasted though.

[DanceswithUnix]

They basically made it such the CPU cores can also do GPU tasks.

It does look a bit like Larrabee doesn't it, but I think Larrabee showed that isn't the same as an actual GPU.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It does look a bit like Larrabee doesn't it, but I think Larrabee showed that isn't the same as an actual GPU.

It does seem to actually have more of a realworld use!

[FRISH]

And I love the whole if you don't agree with me then you're a "hater" BS.

It seems like no matter the topic, most people increasingly have this form of mentality. You simply can't express an opinion on anything these days without being berated by someone *sigh*.

[kalniel]

Sounds like a good fit for completing the transition to thin clients that Apple (and others) have been trying to get traction with for ages.

[selfishtoaster]

Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll keep working on my material.

Hexus arguments against Apple essentially boil down to one of three:
1/ I'm broke and can't afford one - I don't see how this apple's problem; they don't exist to price things for you.
2/ I opened one up once and couldn't fix it - this is hardly a unique issue limited to them and you're lying to yourself if you think it is.
3/ I'm a programmer and my life is hard - choose your rate, choose your fate. Fortunately, nobody cares about programmers anyway.

I'm available all week to expand on any of the above

[QuorTek]

People buy Apple because as it is.. they work and you can be an idiot running their items... that is about it all... if all you need is to check your mail and look on the internet, which is most of the people in the world... then it is the perfect solution.

But they do not offer any kind of freedom... if you want to game... want to run ancient games and more... then uh you can't really use these over protected items to much... this more you want to go under the hood of your equipment and software this more open platform you need.

[Kumagoro]

I am for this mainly out of curiosity to see if they can make an ARM desktop level chip.

To me though they will just be the equivalent of Chrome books and for browsing the web and basic functions. I guess it will be 5 to 10 years to see if big semi niche things like MATLAB, SPSS and other programs commonly used at uni will move over. A lot of students use MacBooks now so in future they may find them expensive note takers.

[DavidC1]

Don't believe me? Rossman and many others have done a whole series of taking macbooks et al with known, easy to fix faults to apple stores/geek squad/a.n.other "authorized repair center" and its the same story every time.

Years ago, there was an incident where they wouldn't offer a battery replacement service at all for their iPod and someone got so mad that he went around putting posters in every Apple store near his area saying "Apple doesn't replace iPod batteries that last 12-18 months".

Few months later, Apple issued a statement saying they now offer replacement services. Of course they denied saying it was due to that guy and it was entirely due to their own goodwill.

[kalniel]

People buy Apple because as it is.. they work and you can be an idiot running their items... that is about it all... if all you need is to check your mail and look on the internet, which is most of the people in the world... then it is the perfect solution.

But they do not offer any kind of freedom... if you want to game... want to run ancient games and more... then uh you can't really use these over protected items to much... this more you want to go under the hood of your equipment and software this more open platform you need.

Macs aren't quite like you describe just yet - they have full freedom and it's just a checkbox to say 'do you trust this publisher' type thing - and windows is going the same way. My current company mandates all developers use macs, mostly from a security point of view, and it doesn't seem to hold back any development work at all - in fact they're quite a lot better than windows PCs with easy terminal access while better supported than linux so I can see the rationale. I wouldn't try gaming on them, but I've got my own home computer for that, and I will say that I'm impressed how light-weight the OS is - even the ancient macs in the office still give a speedy experience despite running piddly amounts of ram that would have windows crying. I do find them hard to use, but that's my fault for being a Windows/Linux bod for the past multiple decades - the youngsters can cope with them fine.

Hexus arguments against Apple essentially boil down to one of three

Hexus doesn't tend to argue against Apple or any other manufacture - as a company in the tech space they'd be a bit silly to Users on these forums however will represent a wide user base, and you'll find people on both sides of any debate.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

https://thehackernews.com/2015/02/vu...ng-system.html
https://www.itspmagazine.com/from-th...ecure-than-pcs

[albert89]

I'm currently on Win7 and hope to one day upgrade to Win10 !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffHIY6pOJUk