BT CEO warns it could be 2033 before UK gets 'Gigabit for all'

[Spank]

they still arent hooking up new developments with fibre out of the gate. I doubt this will change anything.

Its a joke. However at least we arent as farked as the americans are. Their ISPs give zero farks and bend you over for all the cash they can get.

There is almost no competition for most Americans.

[Gentle Viking]

The fiber net here in Denmark are so to say paid by the tax payers.

In the 90ties or something all electrical companies had raked in billions in illegal taxes ( danes love their taxes and paying them )
Anyway the electrical companies was given 2 choices. 1 : pay the money back - 2: put fiber internet in the ground,,,,,, guess what they did.

We Danes are idiots, even if it gave us fast internet in many places.

[iworrall]

Back in the "Before Times", Openreach announced they were going to install FTTH in over 200 small towns across the UK by next March (Mine included).
I guess the plague put that back by another decade or so.

[OOSeven]

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IMO they should create a NFP organisation whose sole task is 1GB for every property FTTP and fund that. No propping up of pension schemes and legacy culture to deal with then.[/QUOTE]

A NFP organisation to provide fast broadband connections to all? You better watch yourself with that Communist propaganda! We do PFI with vastly inflated initial costs that balloon out of all proportion over the next few years with no tangible benefits for the vast majority of us! Or as we now call it, "protecting the economy".

[Output]

So that'll be around 2047 then,

Sounds about right.

and 100 billion over budget.

You started off pessimistic and ended up optimistic.

[iggy]

companies can't work on those timescales with share holders... I shall continue waiting but not expecting.

Hence I think it needs an NFP company set up under a government mandate.

We used to have one of those, but everyone voted to sell it. Stupid bastards.

[ik9000]

We used to have one of those, but everyone voted to sell it. Stupid bastards.

yup they sold the land registry too FFS. Employ clowns, get a circus.

[PBLicious]

We've seen how important a robust network infrastructure is during this period dealing with COVID.
So the government has set aside £5bn for this. BT says £9bn to bring it in earlier.
Meanwhile the same government is hellbent on spending upwards of £110bn on a railway line, a technology first rolled out in 1825.
Hmmm, I wonder if we could spend that money in a better way, one that might benefit far more people and at the same time prevent the need to plough up some of the last remaining natural habitats in England?

[ik9000]

yes, but look into who profits from HS2 and they have to appease certain overseas funders who stand to profit from it don't forget. It's not just about instant redundancies if cancelled, as they could better spend the money on the northern branches first and still employ the same people. Cancelling it would also cause problems given the big land grab and forced purchasing of all the land for the southern branch. I totally agree it should be cancelled however. Waste of time and resource for minimal gain.

[DanceswithUnix]

it's exactly because it was all the way around. Little fingers and meddlers were least likely to do it by accident, and in the dark you find the last hole then run your finger round until it hits the stop and then let go, rinse and repeat. There was a logic to it.

You realise that young posters won't have a clue what we're on about?

You also have to remember that phones were "pulse dial" where dialing 1 meant shorting the cables together once, dialing 9 needed to short them together 9 times, with a pause between digits.

On a noisy line, and they pretty much all were, a loud crackle counted as a dial pulse. Back when VM were still called NTL I had an angry call from the emergency services to stop dialing them. After I convinced them we weren't doing that and no I didn't have any kids (that dates it) there was a pause and he asked "Are you with NTL?". Seemed NTL still supported pulse dial, and yet supported 911 calling. 9 crackles, one crackle, one crackle apparently happened quite a bit and we had no idea. That was the one and only time that I saw NTL turn up rapidly and on time and no messing about they just pulled a whole new cable to the premises.

[leexgx]

40 years ago, the GPO(Now BT) built two factories to fibre the whole of Britain. One factory to manufacture the actual fible cable, and the other to manufacture the various fittings and connectors.
Mrs Thatcher ordered the operation closed down to enable the privatisation of the GPO.
We were once world leaders in telecomms.
Now? Not so much.

it was in 1992 that happened that set us back 35-40 years that block when she stopped FTTP rollout (FTTP in ,copper out) we would have been like sweden right now and cable Virgin (or NTL as it was) would actual have had to compete with BT and have to expand

[[GSV]Trig]

Ahh, I do like it when I drop random references here, people give me a funny look when I'm out and I blame Thatcher for the UK having sh** internet, here, you guys just get it...

[ik9000]

thatcher reemed many aspects of the country. Not a political rant, just from what I've learned about the various impacts her privatisation march screwed many things, several of which are directly biting today. Just like political decisions of recent years will continue to affect us decades into the future. At some point we need to admit we're no longer Great Britain and more average to sub-par britain-lite.

[excalibur1814]

(By moving ISP I went from 20mbps download to 35mbps )

Good lord man! How many concurrent downloads do you have going at the same time?

[ik9000]

(By moving ISP I went from 20mbps download to 35mbps )

Good lord man! How many concurrent downloads do you have going at the same time?

qe ? that's not that much by today's standards? What's speed got to do with simultaneous downloading? If you're streaming a film you want as quick a download speed as you can have. Less waiting time, less buffering etc. Same goes for large downloads eg MS Flight Sim etc.

[Ttaskmaster]

thatcher reemed many aspects of the country. Not a political rant, just from what I've learned about the various impacts her privatisation march screwed many things, several of which are directly biting today. Just like political decisions of recent years will continue to affect us decades into the future. At some point we need to admit we're no longer Great Britain and more average to sub-par britain-lite.

Thatcher privatised the water industry, which led to massive infrastructure investments on scales no British government could ever have imagined. Those investments still continue and, for more than a decade now, have included the laying of millions of miles of fibre-optic cabling inside the pipelines, in order to facilitate high speed internet for around 30 million customers and avoid digging up the roads everywhere.

On behalf of the 1989 Tory Government - You're welcome.