Nvidia to shift RTX 30 GPUs to TSMC 7nm in 2021, says report

[kalniel]

Well Samsung are making the memory for big Navi

[edmundhonda]

They will go to 5nm after 7 I'm sure, but there isn't the capacity at the moment.

Yep, all those new iPhones are on 5nm after all. Small chips, high yields, great margins and endless demand means they're first choice.

[3dcandy]

Yep, all those new iPhones are on 5nm after all. Small chips, high yields, great margins and endless demand means they're first choice.

Always thought the iphone 12 was going to be the first 5nm chips. I'm sure qualcomm are next up with snapdragons on 5nm - again with a huge demand. Problem is they're too late for a lot of this years flagship phones so will be held over till next year

[Percy1983]

I am starting to feel the 30 range was rushed out the door to beat big navi, maybe AMD really has got something good coming.

[DanceswithUnix]

I am starting to feel the 30 range was rushed out the door to beat big navi, maybe AMD really has got something good coming.

Management will be rather distracted by the ARM takeover.

[3dcandy]

To both the above - it has been said by lots of people they'd committed to it coming out BEFORE AMD and they were not willing to go back on that. ARM took focus but simply put they annoyed TSMC and took Samsung because the deals were so so good... and now that is looking like it is coming to bite them in the derriere

[QuorTek]

Well is it not NVIDIA who designed this chip first of all?

[Premium]

The reason why Nvidia went with Samsung isn't just because they were 'cheaper'.

Nvidia tried to hardball by threatening to take their Ampere wafer orders to Samsung if TSMC didn't price match them and TSMC just called their bluff. The very fact that Nvidia chose to use TSMC's 7nm node for their GA100 die from the very start (which began months before the other graphics card dies started production) just proves how much the Samsung option was a second choice offering all along.

They screwed up by being dicks about it and trying to bully TSMC into kowtowing, despite the fact that everyone was aware of the massive queue waiting to snatch up that freed up node capacity.

[3dcandy]

The reason why Nvidia went with Samsung isn't just because they were 'cheaper'.

Nvidia tried to hardball by threatening to take their Ampere wafer orders to Samsung if TSMC didn't price match them and TSMC just called their bluff. The very fact that Nvidia chose to use TSMC's 7nm node for their GA100 die from the very start (which began months before the other graphics card dies started production) just proves how much the Samsung option was a second choice offering all along.

They screwed up by being dicks about it and trying to bully TSMC into kowtowing, despite the fact that everyone was aware of the massive queue waiting to snatch up that freed up node capacity.

Not disagreeing but Samsung offered them an unbelievable deal and TSMC were never going to enter into that war....
NV just being NV. Sony/Xbox/TSMC/Samsung/Apple have all seen this before...

And now we see NV saying they won't be offering founders cards and all the manufacturers saying that they had zero stock to work with and high failure rates of early stock. It's a complete mess, but one of NV's own making

[svenz]

If 3080s do shift to TSMC 7nm (I'm doubtful!), does that mean we'll see significant performance improvements? I'm guessing they would just market it as a new card at that point.

[3dcandy]

If 3080s do shift to TSMC 7nm (I'm doubtful!), does that mean we'll see significant performance improvements? I'm guessing they would just market it as a new card at that point.

I imagine they would be marketed as Super cards or something along those lines. I'm hearing that there is literally no spare capacity for them to do this for at least 6 months though