Tech industry insiders say that Intel is looking for a new CEO

[ik9000]

you didn't answer my question JayN

[bae85]

'Intel cannot catch up to AMD until late 2024 or early 2025' - catch up with what exactly? Will that be 7nm? by 2025 AMD will be on Zen 4 - possibly Zen 5 or even Zen 6? with 5nm?

AMD's goalposts are constantly moving further away.

[JayN]

'Intel cannot catch up to AMD until late 2024 or early 2025' - catch up with what exactly? Will that be 7nm? by 2025 AMD will be on Zen 4 - possibly Zen 5 or even Zen 6? with 5nm?

AMD's goalposts are constantly moving further away.

what's in zen4? pcie5, ddr5? Intel already broadly sampling that in Sapphire Rapids.
Intel added 25% capacity in 2019 and again in 2020, and is already building on the order of 10x more chips than AMD.

Intel is adding more capacity, according to yesterday's Forbes article. How does AMD catch up with Apple expanding wafer starts at TSM? What does AMD do if Huawei returns or MSFT wants to build ARM chips there? According to the Forbes article, Intel 10nm volume will cross 14nm in 2021.

[ik9000]

what's in zen4? pcie5, ddr5? Intel already broadly sampling that in Sapphire Rapids.
Intel added 25% capacity in 2019 and again in 2020, and is already building on the order of 10x more chips than AMD.

Intel is adding more capacity, according to yesterday's Forbes article. How does AMD catch up with Apple expanding wafer starts at TSM? What does AMD do if Huawei returns or MSFT wants to build ARM chips there? According to the Forbes article, Intel 10nm volume will cross 14nm in 2021.

wow. This is turning into newsnight. You still haven't answered the question jayN. All those pro-intel comments and belittling AMD? Makes us wonder why a new poster should rock up and be so down on AMD and so weirdly full of praise for unpublished/unverified intel claims.

JayN are you paid by, affiliated to, or otherwise invested in/stand to profit in any way, financially or otherwise, from Intel?

[Xlucine]

...Another issue is it means porting cores to another node (something Intel have done before but only for cores like Atom), and that's not guaranteed to go smoothly - nowadays CPU cores are designed with a target node in mind and it can require significant reworking to get it to just work, let alone compete with other IP targeted at those nodes...

Rocket lake is ice lake dragged back to 14++++++++++++nm - both the sunny cove cores and xe graphics

[lumireleon]

LIKE before: RAJA becomes CEO and the management restructured by bringing in fresh blood through promotions. Blue badge vs Red badge politics should become obsolete- even apprentice engineers should treated like permanent employees.

[Duckboy79]

wow. This is turning into newsnight. You still haven't answered the question jayN. All those pro-intel comments and belittling AMD? Makes us wonder why a new poster should rock up and be so down on AMD and so weirdly full of praise for unpublished/unverified intel claims.

JayN are you paid by, affiliated to, or otherwise invested in/stand to profit in any way, financially or otherwise, from Intel?

I think you are probs right ik9000! definitely fishy!

[watercooled]

Rocket lake is ice lake dragged back to 14++++++++++++nm - both the sunny cove cores and xe graphics

Replace the word 'node' with 'fab' in that sentence - I mis-typed. I was referring to Intel's mobile Atom SoCs that they produced at TSMC.

Even backporting between their own nodes requires significant work and has its share of drawbacks. Backporting to 14nm is obviously a last resort and requires significant reworking for a core which was designed for 10nm. And even then, they are having to regress on core count to avoid ballooning die size and power consumption.

[John_Amstrad]

Now is the time to get rid of those INTC