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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    Put a new SSD into my half half's laptop over December and makes a huge difference to things like that. Upgraded her memory as and she's really happy.

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    It makes a huge difference nowadays. Windows 10 is frustrating to the point of being almost unusable on a mechanical HDD in my experience (based on some older systems in work). And given that decent entry-level SSDs are around the same price as a HDD, it's a no-brainer for most systems.

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    WOW Samsung 560 ? completely passed me by..
    QLC is MLC!
    Ive never had a problem with Samsung but they are getting out of touch with their pricing.
    Re NVME vs SATA ... I noticed (barely) a speed increase , but nothing earth shattering for me ... good when video-editing large filesa ...

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    Anything other than SLC can technically be described as MLC so it's become something of a misnomer. However it's generally accepted that MLC = 2 bit, TLC = 3 bit, QLC = 4 bit. I think some companies do use MLC for more than just 2 bit though so you have to be careful! E.g. from Samsung: Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC

    The QVO drive is just bizarre in its pricing - I see no reason anyone would choose it over either the EVO or another brand unless they want the very highest capacity models.

    Samsung's flagship NVMe drives have always been on the expensive side from what I remember. It's a bit dubious they're now calling TLC drive a PRO though.

    And yeah I imagine scrubbing through high-resolution video could be helped by a faster SSD.

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    Samsung is doing an Apple,ie,they are coasting off their good reputation and hence feel they can penny pinch and charge more for the privilege.

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Anything other than SLC can technically be described as MLC so it's become something of a misnomer. However it's generally accepted that MLC = 2 bit, TLC = 3 bit, QLC = 4 bit.
    The naming is all stupid.

    You need two levels to store one bit, so even SLC is a dumb name. Single Bit Cell would work.
    Multi Level Cell originally made sense as you needed 4 possible charge levels in the cell to store 2 bits.

    I think they should call QLC "Sixteen Level Cell" forcing us to give up on all this naming nonsense and concentrate on the benchmark and durability metrics which are all that really matters. You can make up for flash of half the speed with twice the number of die, and similarly you already have to choose a terabytes written value for a drive that you feel OK with.

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    Re: Samsung 870 EVO Series expected to be released soon

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Samsung is doing an Apple,ie,they are coasting off their good reputation and hence feel they can penny pinch and charge more for the privilege.
    I've noticed that with the 970 Evo. Got RMAd twice because it was slowly corrupting files after a few months (programs would break, photos turned into artifacty mess, windows eventually fail to start). After the 2nd time the shop then replaced it with a slightly newer and minimally faster 970 Evo Plus in the hopes that would solve it, only for it to do the same crap after 4 months. Ended up getting my money back and bought an OEM version of their Pro drives on ebay, specifically a Samsung SM961 512GB, which is basically just a non-fancy version of a 960 Pro with MLC. That one might be older tech (as in 960 series, not MLC), but hasn't caused any issues whatsoever with corruption or anything else.
    Plus since it was an OEM drive that came out of some HP Probook laptop (and cost shockingly little (60eur) for 512GB worth of MLC on NVMe), I technically didn't even throw more money straight at Samsung after selling me shoddy products

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