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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I rarely get them when doing normal browsing.
    I use script and adblocking for some sites. Not having javascript available is a red flag to the CAPTCHA police.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    When they realised they could use Captchas for this, it hit 2 massive birds with one stone.

    Are they human and training driving AI, it's been years since it's been anything other than stuff you would see on a road.
    Wonder how much much of an effort is required for a comunity of rascals to coordinate failing all the "click the bicycle/pedestrian crossing/parking meter" challenges by just clicking open roads. In time the AI will start believing it, then it filters down to self driving cars and you've got an automated Death Race 2000 on your hands.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by virtuo View Post
    Wonder how much much of an effort is required for a comunity of rascals to coordinate failing all the "click the bicycle/pedestrian crossing/parking meter" challenges by just clicking open roads. In time the AI will start believing it, then it filters down to self driving cars and you've got an automated Death Race 2000 on your hands.
    The sheer volume you would have to perform to do that would be insane and they use their dataset also to validate what you're selecting so if you're wildly out it will flag it as a potential error for verification (I would presume as it would be sensible else any cheeseball would organise something to mess it about).

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by virtuo View Post
    Wonder how much much of an effort is required for a comunity of rascals to coordinate failing all the "click the bicycle/pedestrian crossing/parking meter" challenges by just clicking open roads. In time the AI will start believing it, then it filters down to self driving cars and you've got an automated Death Race 2000 on your hands.
    They include some previously validated images to check for that.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    we need a Captcha that asks us for "all the squares with tin foil hat in" and then pictures of me and Saracen and a few others

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    we need a Captcha that asks us for "all the squares with tin foil hat in" and then pictures of me and Saracen and a few others






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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    "Doors and corners, kid, That's where they get you. Doors and corners...."
    I'm enjoying the series, the books any good? I'm actually tempted for once.

    Also, I get the whole captcha thing, but when they start asking me what a random thingy is they have lost me. I am an Englishman.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    I'm enjoying the series, the books any good? I'm actually tempted for once.

    Also, I get the whole captcha thing, but when they start asking me what a random thingy is they have lost me. I am an Englishman.
    aw now that could be a great one. Stick up the following as a captcha, click all the images containing thongs:








    between language barriers and poor literacy that should render a good chunk of the internet population unable to get through on the first attempt.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    I don't see how usb keys plugged all the time on your computer are going to be better.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by SlickR View Post
    I don't see how usb keys plugged all the time on your computer are going to be better.
    nor me, anything that relies on some kind of electronic signal can surely be spoofed by a machine somewhere along the way. captchas are annoying but they kind of work, and don't rely on me not losing something. I lost my wallet today and couldn't do any banking for 2 hours until it turned up. And that's for something relatively large. A micro usb is just going to go awol. plys many laptops are relatively devoid of usbA and not very generous with usbC these days. Sod off asking for something else to have to go in them! With my mouse and usb drive I've filled mine already. I'll stick with captchas for preference tbh.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    That's just the typical person. Those of you who spend time on the dodgier pron sites will see it far more frequently.
    Scan and Coinbase?

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    When they realised they could use Captchas for this, it hit 2 massive birds with one stone.

    Are they human and training driving AI, it's been years since it's been anything other than stuff you would see on a road.

    Personally, I think these turing test based Captchas are great and yes they're annoying but like with any form of security, better security means less usable/take longer.

    The only thing that really frustrates me is when it seems to have messed up and asks me 3-6 times to find something.
    unfortunately google recaptcha is really crap at avoiding bots, there are so many services that bypass it which allow spam to get through the 'bot checks'. Its great for their AI training for sure but ive noticed recaptcha fail significantly in the last couple of years for its primary purpose, I have had to implement other manual anti bot tactics to stop them getting past.

    I dont see this doing any better as surely the bot farms will just buy up loads of keys and be done with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    I dont see this doing any better as surely the bot farms will just buy up loads of keys and be done with it?
    My point exactly. It's just a greater inconvenience for normal folk having to carry something around, not lose it, and have enough spare USB ports to run it in.

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

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    Uhh... sure, yeah... whatever turns you on and gets you off, I guess.
    I'm never one to judge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    I'm enjoying the series, the books any good? I'm actually tempted for once.
    I'd have to say yes.
    Remember that the guys who wrote the books are also the writers and producers of the programme, so there's a great deal of continuity.

    They're quite different in many respects, but you will notice where (and why) the TV programme had to do certain things differently - For example, they combine some characters for the sake of brevity and due to the differences in media, while changing others simply because the TV version actually works even better.
    The decriptions of the characters vary a bit, but you can still easily picture the actors they chose in the text, which is also very good casting.

    Unfortunately, later seasons had to do things a bit differently due to various external matters having an influence on the production, but the majority of the books are still very much in evidence.
    I'm actually re-reading the books right now during lunch breaks, including the short novellas, while watching episodes in the evening because the Ttaskmistress has never seen it.
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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Uhh... sure, yeah... whatever turns you on and gets you off, I guess.
    I'm never one to judge!


    I'd have to say yes.
    Remember that the guys who wrote the books are also the writers and producers of the programme, so there's a great deal of continuity.

    They're quite different in many respects, but you will notice where (and why) the TV programme had to do certain things differently - For example, they combine some characters for the sake of brevity and due to the differences in media, while changing others simply because the TV version actually works even better.
    The decriptions of the characters vary a bit, but you can still easily picture the actors they chose in the text, which is also very good casting.

    Unfortunately, later seasons had to do things a bit differently due to various external matters having an influence on the production, but the majority of the books are still very much in evidence.
    I'm actually re-reading the books right now during lunch breaks, including the short novellas, while watching episodes in the evening because the Ttaskmistress has never seen it.
    That's good to know, I think I'll have to order the books, thanks!

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    Re: Cloudflare on CAPTCHAs: "it's time to end this madness"

    Quote Originally Posted by Iota View Post
    That's good to know, I think I'll have to order the books, thanks!
    I'm on book two here having watched the series. I'm finding book time easier to arrange than screen time atm and still haven't managed to watch the last series. I'm really enjoying the books, which I thought I wouldn't given the spoilers of watching the show, but I'm still getting sucked into the story.

    Old Man's War book series is still my favourite sci-fi though. Thanks whoever on Hexus pointed me at that

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