Strictly speaking, Vista, 7, 8 and 10 are also part of the NT family line (they're all evolutions of the same kernel and associated gubbins). Vista just switched things up a notch, to make superficial use of a GPU if you happened to have one... albeit anyone excited by that 3d task-switching view needed to get out a bit more. ;-)Originally Posted by spacein_vader
Linux is starting to look good if this rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishe keep's up !
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
― Frank Herbert, Dune
Oddly enough, that news thing didn't seem to show up in the taskbar context menu on mine after the update (Win10 Pro). The taskbar bug it supposedly causes when disabled did though.
I have moved over to a Mac now (boo-hiss I can hear you shout) but I never had it appear for me after the latest update also on Win 10 Pro
Jon
Same, I just went through the process yesterday. I wouldn't mind the unnecessary crap that keeps getting added if it was completely modular but it isn't and that's even more annoying when they're actively trying to 'unlink' some things like notepad etc....
Mind you the news/weather thing feels more like another way to try and 'encourage' the use of bing (nope it's useless, I'd rather use duck duck go) along with tracking our location via a weather app that's about as accurate as me looking out of the window (I've never understood the need for a 'real time' weather icon)
So rumours are swirling that lend more credence to Windows 11 being a thing, recently Microsoft updated the life cycle policy page for Windows 10 Home and Pro to show Windows 10 is being retired on the 10/14/2025.
Hmmm. Thanks for that.
Well, I guess all I can do is wait and see what W11, should it really appear, does, how it does it, and how it looks. Maybe it will be what I regard as an improvement. Or maybe not. Experience in recent years doesn't fill me with confidence in that regard.
My first major question is whether we will all be bounced into it, in a too-short period of time, like a major W10 update? Or, if it's a paid-for update, we get the choice of sticking with W10 for several years? The answer to that will good a good start to me identifying whether I want to go down the rabbit-hole with it, or not.
What is utterly certain is that a couple of machines I rely on for some daily purposes will get disconnected from the internet entirely until I'm sure I want to go the W11 route, if they try to shove it on us, like it or not, like a W10 update. I'll then either use a sacrificial goat drive on a spare machine, or either an Android tablet or buy an iPad, for the few things I do that actually need a net connection, like buying from Amazon or posting here.
But if they do force that on me, I am not going to be happy about it, and it'll probably make the W11 decision for me, in the negative.
A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".
Oh, and if it turns out to be based on a subscription model, as I've long believed MS are heading for, then they can stick it you know where. Not doing that. Not for Adobe, after years of regular use, not for MS and not for anybody else. I've just finished migrating Photoshop/Lightroom to Affinity Photo/ACDsee, after ages looking around, specifically over that issue so I'm not letting MS bounce me into it either.
A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".
If there is any kind of signifiant change quickly move to 12.
Everybody hates Vista but loves Vista SP2... I mean 7.
Everybody hates 8 buts loves 8.2... I mean 10. (sort of)
I have to say I let out a groan when I saw windows 11. Having regular updates has made things a bit easier and I was hoping something significant wasn't going to happen until at least 2025.
Not everybody, I assure you.
There are a few things I use that would be massively inconvenient to use anything else, or I would be. Much of what I used to do on Win7 is now either on Linux, or still on Win7 machines but behind an air-gap. If W7 was still supported and I could run what I need on it, I would be, and am using W10 through gritted teeth, and with a snarl. Love it? Hell, no. I don't even like it. At all. Forced into it? For now.
What I'm not now forced into is keeping those W10 machines net-connected. It would cause some minor issues and inconvenience but I could now move them behind the airgap too, and freeze both W10 and those few applications at the current level, and should Win11 be as bad as it could be (by my criteria), I will do just that. Guess who's keeping his disk images updated regulary at the moment?
A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".
Nop not a nice video. Stopped at 30 seconds. Definitely too harsh to be relaxing.
Subscription model certainly on the cards and the end of my retail licences before long.
I have to say overall I'm very pleased with Windows 10, but mine is fairly basic use.
Last edited by raygdunn; 14-06-2021 at 10:10 AM.
Same old MS crap recycled.
Reminds me of someone that popped up on youtube - he said [paraphrasing] "you must object to radical stupidity at the earliest opportunity, or one of three things will happen. 1) you'll be warped into thinking it's a good idea and so much for your soul, 2) it'll demotivate you as you're being pecked to death by morons with stupid rules and 3) it'll make you resentful and irritable. By objecting at the earliest opportunity you make people aware that what they are doing is radically stupid but there's gonna be trouble either way so you might as well have trouble that could get you somewhere."
Saracen999 (15-06-2021)
Not sure how legit it is but seems to show Windows 11 :- https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/2...ots-start-menu
Jon
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