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Its awful. Too much wasted space and that start menu is just rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish.
They've just taken all the UI dev they did for the now abandoned 10X and stuck it on top of Windows 10. It could have just been a feature update but by calling it Windows 11 they help drive more sales of new PCs. (It probably makes it easier to replace Windows store and drop some older hardware too).
Also I wouldn't get to work up by the look. This isn't the final build.
Not as drastic a change as i feared, at least most of the changes can be easily undone.
Radical enough that it will cause a great deal of anxiety for the million/s of older and more vulnerable people forced online to access public services. Whatever is under the bonnet is probably going to trigger another wave of hardware upgrades and the e-waste that goes with it. With the majority of users only interested in social media, online shopping, zooming, photos and e-mail, whatever this new amazing, awesome tech is, most won't care and it won't apply to them.Originally Posted by KultiVator
Anyone want to estimate the global cost of lost productivity and increased energy consumption from yet another round of pushing icons around the screen?
The Start Menu is like some sort of obsession with them. It was at it's most productive in Win9x/NT4 and has become less useful with each subsequent bout of fiddling. Hmm. Big, high resolution, widescreen monitor and they want to pop-up a hugely distracting panel, filled with widgets no one's interested in, obscuring the Window/s you are trying to work in.
Dear Microsoft, can you please stop hiring bright, young, mobile phone UX designers.
At least in MacOS I can still easily create a hierarchical list of application names, grouped and arranged as I prefer to navigate them. Probably the single reason I use an iMac as my daily.
Desktop ads are so last decade. Just collect ever more telemetry, sell to the advertising bureaux and let them push the ads onto your social media feeds and web pages.]If it's a paid-for OS, hopefully there'll be increased respect for users - e.g. not being blasted with advertising at every opportunity (one of the most alarming aspects of using the Windows 10 Home Edition in particular).
Windows has been over-priced at retail for at least 20 years, hidden away behind OEM pricing agreements. Microsoft already sell Windows as a subscription, bundled with some of the Microsoft 365 business packages. Beyond easing license management in very large corporations, it's a difficult sell when PCs are generally sold with an OEM Windows license.On the flip side of this - with Mac OS and Linux continually gaining ground, can Microsoft even justify charging for Windows any more? Or could they even experiment with a GamePass-style model, where your subscription covers differing tiers of access to Windows/Office/Azure/etc?
/cynic
It'll be full of ads because people don't want to pay for things.
I'd hope there's a paid version too without them, but that'll probably be a subscription.
I'm happy enough with that if they add it onto O365. 6 licenses and 6 for office for £125-£150 a year vs £80 for O365 is fine with me, as long as it includes at tleast the same as 10pro - I need remote desktop.
What Corky said ..... buy with an added "so far".
It seems pretty clear that what we've been seeing is a carefully orchestrated "leak" designed, in all probability, to test the waters. But that just makes the cynic in me wonder if they're trialling the bits they think we'll like, and keeping the bits we won't like so much quiet, like more "telemetry", subscription model, etc. Time will tell, I guess.
And while I also agree with a fair bit od matts comments above, I would point out I'm one of those "older" users, and at least in terms of Hexus, certainly one of the .... ummm .... more 'vocal' W10 (and W8) critics. Yet, so far, I'm not seeing a lot to dislike in the "leaked" version.
- rounded corners? Pleasant enough, but .... ho-hum. Whatever.
- Central Mac-alike taskbar? Whatever. And easy to turn off.
- New tiled panes?Looking pretty good, actually.
- Dumping live tiles. Hip-hip-hooflippingray. About time, MS.
In short, nothing so far terribly objectionable AND, given the ability to easily tweak and revert, well, if MS had done THAT in W8/W10 I'd have been a hell of a lot less critical. In fact, taht ability, such as with Start menu, to keep it how I wanted it not the live tile cobblers was a large part of my objections.
So .... still awaiting any details of what actually justifies calling it W11 whenall it looks like so far is a pleasant and pretty optional UI tweak.
Which makes the cynic in me really wonder .... what don't they want us to notice? And like I said, time will tell so I'm reserving judgement but so far, even a dyed-in-the-wool old critic like me can't see mcu to get my undergarments in a knot about.
Yet.
A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".
Got the Windows 11 Sounds from MajorGeeks. Really like the new sounds. I like the new taskbar location even if it's a ripoff from other OSes. The theme is nice as well. Some of the wallpapers are very nice looking. Since the Windows 11 is still based on Windows 10 though, not really sure why it's getting a number bump. Still wish MS would go back to the naming the OSes instead of using numbers. Windows 11 should of had a name instead.
I wonder if this will be user-friendly enough to tempt me away from Windows 7.... some of the changes in Windows 10 were just too annoying for me, particularly the way that useful items had been siloed into weird places, with new Win10 categories not being adequate so remnants of control panel categories had to remain to hold residual items. If MS Office could also be updated to move away from the simplistic UI with its basic icons that would also be very welcome! Feels like 'my first office suite' these days!)
I doubt it, now we've had the it's all amazing Microsoft spin on the release (Hexus not covering it?) the sordid details are surfacing. Start Menu with cloud integration (whatever that means), no installing/setting up the Home version with a Microsoft account or internet connection, Teams is integrated (hopefully can be removed with powershell), xCloud for cloud gaming integrated (another removal for me).
Honestly from what I've seen the entire premise behind windows 11 (outside of the making it look a little prettier) is to push the microsoft store and all of microsofts other online/subscription services a bit more 'forcefully'. Now don't get me wrong I don't mind them being given to me as options during install but I want a 'choice' to have them installed.
Basically they've seen Apple and Google getting away with it on mobile so they're doing it on windows too, albeit it with more openness on the store...iirc they no longer have the 'watchers' ensuring they're not abusing monopoly position.
I do think that in windows 12/13 we won't have the option of anything but the store to install stuff though and once that is sorted they'll gradually remove alternative payment options.... one way to 'stop' illegal versions of software and/or malware but at the same time take away a lot of the 'freedom' of windows too.
I've long (since the W8 launch) thought that was the direction of travel, but if they do go that far, it spells the final Win death knell for me. Unfortunately, I have a few pieces of software that are Win-only with no Linux versions. Some of those have alternate packages that might do the job, but I'd also be quite happy just sticking with W10 and no net connection for the few packages I still use on Windows (pretty much some photo stuff, and a genealogy program). What I'm not doing is going subscription-model on Windows. I refused to do that for Photoshop (hence ACDSee and Affinity), and refused to do it for Office (hence Libre) and most of everything else either has Linux versions, or suitable alternate software I'd be fairly happy to switch to.
Keeping one machine, fully net-disconnected, would sort me for the few things that do use Win10, and I'd just use one machine, probably a laptop, for the few things (like browsing here) that need to be online. Not much I do does, any more.
A lesson learned from PeterB about dignity in adversity, so Peter, In Memorium, "Onwards and Upwards".
Well Windows 11 will run on my PC apparently...
Soooo, what?
It's been officially announced:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57598554
Everyone: please give us x86 emulation in windows for ARM
MS: Here's the arm emulation in x86 you asked for
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