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    Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    The firm recently successfully trialled Taara tech to join two Congolese cities.
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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    so the future is wireless or fiber into infinity?

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Read it as "like fibre, but without the candles".

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    so the future is wireless or fiber into infinity?
    It's a useful alternative when geographical layout and other factors lead to issues when laying fibre.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Lets see how it performs when it's wet/windy/foggy, in other words when it isn't a 'perfect day' because even places like the congo have 'bad days'.

    If it's anything like satellite signals it will degrade pretty easily when there's something in the way. Hell even current point to point wireless has issues with obstructions.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Only reason I see this as an alteritive is cost, less work and less man hours required to inbstall it.
    I bet it wont be cheap for whoever has it tho.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubarb View Post
    Only reason I see this as an alteritive is cost, less work and less man hours required to inbstall it.
    I bet it wont be cheap for whoever has it tho.
    Cheaper than 400km of Fibre, this is the whole point of the project.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    I have a better idea. What you do is encode the data into bits, angular momentum and QAM.

    Then you use that information to fire a machine gun to fire the bullets in the appropriate sequence with electromagnets switching to slightly alter the spin and therefore the angular momentum (measured on impact) and also adjust the aim to ensure the FMJ data packet lands in the correct position for QAM. You could use a high speed serial connection in the form of a Vulcan cannon or a lower speed, wide connection in the form of a battery of GPMGs.

    I think this is the way forward and would definitely encourage net neutrality as anyone trying to interfere with the packet routing would become heavily perforated.

    EDIT - we might wanna bribe the RSPB like the wind turbine people did.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I have a better idea. What you do is encode the data into bits, angular momentum and QAM.

    Then you use that information to fire a machine gun to fire the bullets in the appropriate sequence with electromagnets switching to slightly alter the spin and therefore the angular momentum (measured on impact) and also adjust the aim to ensure the FMJ data packet lands in the correct position for QAM. You could use a high speed serial connection in the form of a Vulcan cannon or a lower speed, wide connection in the form of a battery of GPMGs.

    I think this is the way forward and would definitely encourage net neutrality as anyone trying to interfere with the packet routing would become heavily perforated.

    EDIT - we might wanna bribe the RSPB like the wind turbine people did.
    ....wait, at least you could have used quantum superposition. And on the above prove your theory using numbers, Laplace transform will come in handy.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    I have a better idea. What you do is encode the data into bits, angular momentum and QAM.

    Then you use that information to fire a machine gun to fire the bullets in the appropriate sequence with electromagnets switching to slightly alter the spin and therefore the angular momentum (measured on impact) and also adjust the aim to ensure the FMJ data packet lands in the correct position for QAM. You could use a high speed serial connection in the form of a Vulcan cannon or a lower speed, wide connection in the form of a battery of GPMGs.

    I think this is the way forward and would definitely encourage net neutrality as anyone trying to interfere with the packet routing would become heavily perforated.

    EDIT - we might wanna bribe the RSPB like the wind turbine people did.
    Sounds workable, and more resistant to bad weather than lasers and microwaves. IIRC a projectile should average the speed of sound for maximum stability, so ping times might suck. Not that anyone would want to strut up to you and say "Your ping times suck!"

    There is a problem that the projectiles are not easily re-usable. Or at least there is a very high energy cost in catching, melting and re-casting the lead though it could be automated.

    Edit: Lead re-use would be far easier if this was basically an air gun so the lead doesn't have to be pressed into a cartridge, and the explosive charge doesn't need replacing just lots of air pumped. I'm thinking far too much about this aren't I

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Sounds workable, and more resistant to bad weather than lasers and microwaves.
    Long range projectiles are definitely affected by bad weather, let alone a massive heap of general atmospheric effects from pressure/air density all the way up to if there's a thunderstorm...

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    Long range projectiles are definitely affected by bad weather, let alone a massive heap of general atmospheric effects from pressure/air density all the way up to if there's a thunderstorm...
    Ah yes, but as long as you can compensate for it and the message can arrive, I'm sure having to re-aim is just brief packet loss.

    Lasers and microwaves can be full on blocked by snow, there just isn't any usable signal at the far end.


    ... but I think I'm just amused by the likes of a heavy calibre keep alive packet

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Ah yes, but as long as you can compensate for it and the message can arrive, I'm sure having to re-aim is just brief packet loss.

    Lasers and microwaves can be full on blocked by snow, there just isn't any usable signal at the far end.
    I mean, that's why they put these emitters and receivers up really high

    And if there is that much snow, long range datatillery is also going to be severely affected!

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... but I think I'm just amused by the likes of a heavy calibre keep alive packet
    "Hey bob, just sending a ping!"

    *kaboom*

    "Yeah jerry, we got it!"

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    I'm sure there are plenty of old 120Gb~500Gb HDD drives that could be repurposed as slugs... Would improve the data capacity too. Granted the G forces might be a little outside of spec but nothing that can't be rectified.
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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    I'm sure there are plenty of old 120Gb~500Gb HDD drives that could be repurposed as slugs... Would improve the data capacity too. Granted the G forces might be a little outside of spec but nothing that can't be rectified.
    This is starting to remind of the South African internet speed test in 2009 where it was faster to transfer data via carrier pigeon than via the telecommunications infrastructure.

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    Re: Alphabet's Project Taara is "like fibre, but without the cables"

    How about a tall bridge over the Congo River?
    Then, the depth and speed of that river are irrelevant.
    The bridge doesn't need to support cars, trucks and trains

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