Next-gen DVDs: Expensive and confusing

[vincent]

tbh- i dont see the need

cos it's a waste of our tax money and researched money

why do we need High Definitition TV or video format?

we dont cos the quality of the films that are available today are good enough

hell i dont even think we could even see the difference....

and for Blu-Ray- tis just another dvd format like DVD+R and such...

i think the only place its applicable to is the gaming market....

and why the hell do u need such a big TV- what u got 14" inch eyes have u!!

[Funkstar]

Have you not seen the HDTV demos in electrical stores?? the difference between SD and HD is huge.

[vincent]

i have

tbh though it aint exactly a necessity well i dont see it NE ways...

in several months time when the hypes gone- people will be already bored with it lol

[fuddam]

well..............the FACT of the matter is, SD sets were always designed to be viewed from an average distance IIRC of 8 feet. HD sets, on the other hand, are designed for average 4 feet.

When one views the HD from the SD distance, the human eye is incapable of telling the difference.

ok, my measurements might be open to debate, but remember reading it from some of the video gurus on, I think, DV.com - the peeps who built the stuff way back, and have a gazillion years of experience. Must dig up the article sometime. Size of the screen must effect distance etc.

[Rave]

It does fuddam. According to Dan if you've got 20/20 vision you can resolve detail down to about a minute of arc. It's fairly simple trigonometry to work out the distance you need to be away from a screen to see all of the pixels. When I was ordering a plasma screen for my inlaws I worked out that at the 2m+ distances they'd be viewing it from that they wouldn't need an HDTV res screen, a bog standard 854x480 would be fine for them.

At the moment I view my 29" SDTV from about 8-10' away. If I replaced it with a 32" HDTV, I'd barely be able to distinguish the difference. What I in fact intend to do is replace it with a 56" DLP rear projector, on which the difference will be quite obvious.

[steve threlfall]

tbh- i dont see the need

cos it's a waste of our tax money and researched money

why do we need High Definitition TV or video format?

we dont cos the quality of the films that are available today are good enough

hell i dont even think we could even see the difference....

and for Blu-Ray- tis just another dvd format like DVD+R and such...

i think the only place its applicable to is the gaming market....

and why the hell do u need such a big TV- what u got 14" inch eyes have u!!

Mate, what are you talking about...

HDTV is 4 times the resoultion of normal tv. If your saying that you wont be able to tell the difference between HD and regular transmissions then your mistaken.

Waste of tax money? eh? since when has the government paid for HDTV. I think those responsilbe for HDTV, reaping the rewards as it takes off, think the money spent on r&d was wasted...

The quality of dvd is good enough?

but HD-DVD and blue ray are high definition unlike dvd

[5lab]

well..............the FACT of the matter is, SD sets were always designed to be viewed from an average distance IIRC of 8 feet. HD sets, on the other hand, are designed for average 4 feet.

where did you hear that from? 4 feet from a hd set? get real

[autopilot]

well..............the FACT of the matter is, SD sets were always designed to be viewed from an average distance IIRC of 8 feet. HD sets, on the other hand, are designed for average 4 feet.

When one views the HD from the SD distance, the human eye is incapable of telling the difference.

ok, my measurements might be open to debate, but remember reading it from some of the video gurus on, I think, DV.com - the peeps who built the stuff way back, and have a gazillion years of experience. Must dig up the article sometime. Size of the screen must effect distance etc.

3.......2........1....... aaaaand......your back in the room.

[vincent]

HD to me sparks health warnings n such, not because of the typical TV aspect of it where "u sit 2 close u suppsoedly get square eyes"-but other health warnings.

ever wondered why humans get headaches/migraines from VDU's and TFT's?

easy
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Each Pixel lit up on th VDU or TFT you are on now is obviously emitting light,Because you're sat at a screen for over 2-3 hours at around 10-15 Inch's way of the same light emissions- it causes a strain on your eyes because the whole of the screen is too bright-even sometiems when brightness is too low it still can strain the eye-but the amount is small obviously
-thus giving u a migraine.

i think the real main concern here is that the more detailed images get and ability to focus on a certain part of the moving image-the more strain goes onto a human eye.


For E.G-i used to be able to sit a tv/pc screen for over 5 hours+ with breaks without no problems-but i have recently been for a eye test and according to what the Doc said is that due to being near screens /VDU's and TFT's basically all my 20 years so far- it has taken strain on my eyes and made my eyes worse than i was when i started wearing glasses over 14 years back.-nowadays even after one hour of playing a game on the pc -i get migraines,their aint much i can do except keep upgrading my glasses's every year.

Now im not judging /makin assumptions that HDTV is bad for us- the idea is good- i would love to watch my fav Porn movies in HD or watch england win the world cup.

to me- HDTV is overrated to me-yes i have seen the quality- but i cant exactly watch it over a 2 hour period with my eyesight. you all make it sound like we all need it asap-like its a mandatory thing in life like Bills and rent.

also it could spark major health warnings and i wouldnt be surprised that some numpty in this country tries 2 sue a maker for makin their eye eyesight worse....

the higher technology goes- the more health risks are along side it -I.E. onlien gamming can lead to no social life and even some cases of starvation and death or a keyboard can result in arthritis. it's the risk we humans take into a faster moving technology- if u can name me one technology that doesnt harm the human body in any way shape or form -then i will take it onboard obviously....

oviously i dont see any problems with BLU-RAY because it introduces another file format into the DVD media world- in which i wont be surprised that the supposed DRM that are on the discs when burned will be beaten...like any other file protection system. the only one that isnt beaten these days is supposedly StarForce.

[5lab]

not entirely sure why hd would be worse for eyestrain than a normal tv. additionally, eye strain and migranes are very person-specific. i get none.. some people get loads. i've always been told to not watch a screen for more than ~1 hour at a time - i wouldnt be surprised if this was in the manuals of screens these days, just to cover themselves. seats dont have warnings telling you not to sit in exactly the same position so as to avoid dvt..

[directhex]

my eyesight has improved slightly since i got a TFT, according to assorted eye tests ^_^

[badass]

HD to me sparks health warnings n such, not because of the typical TV aspect of it where "u sit 2 close u suppsoedly get square eyes"-but other health warnings.

ever wondered why humans get headaches/migraines from VDU's and TFT's?

easy
-----
Each Pixel lit up on th VDU or TFT you are on now is obviously emitting light,Because you're sat at a screen for over 2-3 hours at around 10-15 Inch's way of the same light emissions- it causes a strain on your eyes because the whole of the screen is too bright-even sometiems when brightness is too low it still can strain the eye-but the amount is small obviously
-thus giving u a migraine.

i think the real main concern here is that the more detailed images get and ability to focus on a certain part of the moving image-the more strain goes onto a human eye.


For E.G-i used to be able to sit a tv/pc screen for over 5 hours+ with breaks without no problems-but i have recently been for a eye test and according to what the Doc said is that due to being near screens /VDU's and TFT's basically all my 20 years so far- it has taken strain on my eyes and made my eyes worse than i was when i started wearing glasses over 14 years back.-nowadays even after one hour of playing a game on the pc -i get migraines,their aint much i can do except keep upgrading my glasses's every year.

Now im not judging /makin assumptions that HDTV is bad for us- the idea is good- i would love to watch my fav Porn movies in HD or watch england win the world cup.

to me- HDTV is overrated to me-yes i have seen the quality- but i cant exactly watch it over a 2 hour period with my eyesight. you all make it sound like we all need it asap-like its a mandatory thing in life like Bills and rent.

also it could spark major health warnings and i wouldnt be surprised that some numpty in this country tries 2 sue a maker for makin their eye eyesight worse....

the higher technology goes- the more health risks are along side it -I.E. onlien gamming can lead to no social life and even some cases of starvation and death or a keyboard can result in arthritis. it's the risk we humans take into a faster moving technology- if u can name me one technology that doesnt harm the human body in any way shape or form -then i will take it onboard obviously....

oviously i dont see any problems with BLU-RAY because it introduces another file format into the DVD media world- in which i wont be surprised that the supposed DRM that are on the discs when burned will be beaten...like any other file protection system. the only one that isnt beaten these days is supposedly StarForce.

Thats 2 posts in a row you've added 2 and 2 together and got 5.
when you're sitting several feet away, the resolution difference will make no difference to eye strain. Secondly warring DVD replacement formats have nothing to do with our taxes

Thirdly, ANYTHING can harm you. Not using any technology can harm you. Generally as technology improves, it also becomes LESS harmful, not more.
Take cars for example.

[mmmalas]

well..............the FACT of the matter is, SD sets were always designed to be viewed from an average distance IIRC of 8 feet. HD sets, on the other hand, are designed for average 4 feet.

When one views the HD from the SD distance, the human eye is incapable of telling the difference.

ok, my measurements might be open to debate, but remember reading it from some of the video gurus on, I think, DV.com - the peeps who built the stuff way back, and have a gazillion years of experience. Must dig up the article sometime. Size of the screen must effect distance etc.

good point, but then if I had Hdtv, it wont be used mainly for videos, but for playing games, and resolution matter in games more than movies

[Mike Fishcake]

Can I play the "get the wrong end of the stick" game too?

[BlueRiband]

Erm Strange i missed this i deal in dvds

[blun]

I think the perceived difference between vhs and dvd was huge, but the diff between these new formats is going to be a lot harder to sell to the consumer.