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    righty, so it's useless WMADRM

    someone change all references to "mp3" in the article please!

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    Hopefully the WMA system will be broken again by the time that starts. I would have no qualms about breaking the system so I could listen to my legit music where I wanted.
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    Oh well, there goes any chance of my ever using it.
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    A 90 second ad to get one song. Man the record industry is so out of touch it's hilarious.

    20 minutes of adverts to get one album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awm
    Hopefully the WMA system will be broken again by the time that starts. I would have no qualms about breaking the system so I could listen to my legit music where I wanted.
    but if you violate the licensing terms under which you got the music, then it's really no different to using P2P...

    ... except some company is making money & further proving that the public will accept DRM'd music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckskull
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    But then you're just stealing again...
    I run Adblock as an opt-in system. When I find a site that I use a lot and has acceptably discreet ads, I unblock them. I'm not stealing anything, I'm showing support for sites that are useful and well-run and denying it to sites that are poor. You'll be happy to know that Hexus ads are unblocked on my system.

    Adblock has become one of my main reasons for running Firefox. Browsing with IE is painful because of all the ad-spew.

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    I guess the whole problem is Digital Restriction and Mismanagement (DRM). If customers are forced to choose between DRM and priacy nobody is going to be happy.


    I block flash ads, including those on Hexus on my laptop not because I don't want to watch the ads that support the site, but because they make the fans and leg hair burning features on my older powerbook kick on. I don't know why but occasionly just a few pages with flash ads can put my CPU usage well over 50%.

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    Ok, so previously they couldnt reduce the price of cds as theyd lose money...they wanted more than the curent 99cents being charged on itunes gets them...and now theyre giving them away for 'free' if we look at 20mins of ads per album.

    Am i the only one who wishes the record companies would just put out somthing in the middle that didnt cause hassle for everyone involved? Id still like getting actual CDs tbh

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    Downloaded tunes can be saved to a hard drive or transferred to a portable music player, but users will have to visit the SpiralFrog Web site once a month and watch more ads. Otherwise, digital locks on the music will make it inaccessible.


    I would rather pay £15 for something like napster2go (which will probably have a much better selection anyway) and not have to watch a load of junk adverts either.

    At the end of the day, they have no way of telling if you have actually bothered to watch the ads, or left the room to make a cup of tea. But 90 seconds per song will add up to a royal pain in the ass. Also, the only way to make this work, and actually make people watch them, is to include some kind of user interaction/click though - which i strongly suspect they will.

    The bottom line is - this concept completely contradicts the reasons why people use download services in the first place - convenience. I hate the idea already and smell a novelty-tastic failure personally.

    Just imagine it - "Oh hang on lads, this music is not going to play - i just need to pop back to my PC and watch 20 mins of adverts". Yay!

    Utter, utter carp of the highest order. I give it 12 months max, based on the publisity it's currently getting, then bye bye.
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    depends what people are willing to do to get legal and free music, id defo give it a try but adverts annoy me so badly , the ones on tv even more than online ones tbh

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    This could work if the adverts don’t have to be watched exactly when downloading tracks. For example, a monthly quota of (interactive) ad watching equals x downloads. 90 seconds of my time for every track seem very expensive to me.

    I would want files unlocked though after a set period though, otherwise you’ll be forced to use the service forever or lose all the music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders
    90 seconds of my time for every track seem very expensive to me.
    Well if a track costs 80p (I think that's the iTunes price), then 1 track for 90 seconds of your time works out to £32 an hour tax-free. Not too shabby I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleski
    Well if a track costs 80p (I think that's the iTunes price), then 1 track for 90 seconds of your time works out to £32 an hour tax-free. Not too shabby I suppose.
    Fair point. The only reservation I now have is what will be made available... New releases are big money, so perhaps this will involve you having to see particular adverts - who knows? Apart from Universal, of course...

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    have they mentioned what type of music they will be putting on. i'ms sure it won't be very mainstream stuff.

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    @charleski and moby_matt

    The catch is you have to repeat the process each month, unlike itunes where you get the track for life.

    @sunnyg

    There is one of the major record labels putting everything on, forget which, sure it says in an article though.

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    In that case it would be more like a subscription service in the vein of WoW - keep watching to keep listening...

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