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    Just sell the drives and get your gf some shoes.

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    "Chief of Totally Incredible Technical Stuff" <-- Chief of TITS? ... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStar View Post
    "Chief of Totally Incredible Technical Stuff" <-- Chief of TITS? ... lol
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    What you do is use 1 hardrive and throw the other 7 away with the two controllers , they the extra stuff you get with products that you dont need,

    On a serious note though it all depends , why so many drives ?(splitting risk)

    If its gaming then RAID0 striped but if its not then the best config your controller has it. Simple.

    Our RYHS is sorted , cased closed people nothing to see here

    also I noticed that you have two controllers and loads of different sizes of hardrives , yes you can mix them but why would somebody do that , thats like paying for something that doest work

    My advice keep the two 150gb raptors and keep either the two maxtors or the small raptors , sell the other stuff and match the same drives , if you have this much money to spend then go the full way about it. ! controller for the two raptors and the other for 4 300gb and the raid seriously my freind depends on your controller and how they perform on the disks., I am not to sure how your controllers work and if or whether they can take mix speeds and sizes for two different setups.

    I would do one striped a with the raptor setup and this would be strictly for gaming and the other application stuff the other drives will be good enough , its the games that need the speed boost not the everyday application.
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    Create a compressed image of the data using Norton Ghost and back it up to another disk or DVD's.

    That way the data will be safe at least and you simply install Norton Ghost when everything is up and running and can drag and drop everything back to where you want it.

    How I worked round the problem I was experiencing a few months back when my Windows installation became corrupt and couldn't be repaired. I created an image on my 2nd partition of the C drive then pulled all my important files back out of the image once I was set back up.

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    Definitely mirror the two Maxtors. If it's stuff you can't lose, I'm surprised you haven't done this already.

    As for the rest of it, probably one of the other answers is best...

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    Raid 1 - 2 x Maxtors
    Raid 0 - 2 x 74GB Raptors
    Raid 0 - 2 x 150GB Raptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferral View Post
    Create a compressed image of the data using Norton Ghost and back it up to another disk or DVD's.

    That way the data will be safe at least and you simply install Norton Ghost when everything is up and running and can drag and drop everything back to where you want it.

    How I worked round the problem I was experiencing a few months back when my Windows installation became corrupt and couldn't be repaired. I created an image on my 2nd partition of the C drive then pulled all my important files back out of the image once I was set back up.
    Or, Acronis TrueImage, I prefer that, its not as clunky and slow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    i feel it is my duty to point & laugh at you

    highpoint don't do real RAID controllers, and the products you've linked aren't even slightly better than the existing onboard driver-based (fake)raid on the system
    Sorry guv, but you're wrong about the second one he linked to. It's a fair chunk better then any onboard fakeraid. Reliable OCE, read speeds several times in excess of onboard fakeraid 5, a reasonalbey good management console, and mobo independance. I'd say that's an improvement. And I'm fairly sure the 2320 is OS independant too. Sure, it's no Areca, it seems to be termed partial hardware by some people - meaning yeah it'll use up CPU time when doing heavy writes. But then it costs half of what an Areca costs, the user gets the security of a full hardware and acceptable write speeds, while not having to spend half a grand.

    I agree that the first link was tripe, the second shouldn't be pointed and laughed at so quickly though, it's a decent choice for people who want something reliable but can't afford a full hardware card.

    As for my suggestion, I'm not all that sure what I'd do with the disks. I'm someone who likes RAID 5's. RAID 0 is highly over-rated, and unless you either don't care about the data on one, or back it up regularly, I'd advise against using one.

    If you really want to clean things up, I personally would probably actually RAID 0 the 150's(not for the speed benefits, they're negligable, just to have a big 10k RPM disk) and then regularly image it to the 300. Leave Ubuntu where it is and just use the other 74GB disk for junk you don't care much about. Oh and one final thing, experiment with NCQ on and off, because I've found disks in single user environment actually benefit from it being off generally.
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    our recent success with Highpoint 2322 controller

    FYI: we just installed a Highpoint RocketRAID 2322 in the
    second x16 "universal" PCI-E slot in our ASUS P5WD2 Premium.
    (We don't need dual video cards for our work here.)

    We chose this controller specifically because it ports
    out the rear panel to 2 x mini-SAS "multi-lane" cables,
    which we connected to 8 x WD1600YS SATA2 HDDs
    housed in a separate storage case.

    We're very happy with the overall results, with one
    caveat: our motherboard only allows that "univeral"
    PCI-E slot to run at x4 speed (max), and this limitation
    appears to explain the speed ceiling we have measured
    with these 8 HDDs in a RAID 0 (for max speed) --
    about 240 MB/second doing "raw reads" with
    the PERFORMANCETEST software, version 4.0.

    A review of the 2322 on the Internet reported
    speeds in excess of 400 MB/second on a Mac G-5,
    and I suspect that the Mac runs this 2322 controller
    at x8 speed, not x4.

    (We have plenty of other HDDs in our disk farm,
    so other RAID options are not interesting to us.)

    We ultimately plan to replace our Intel 640 CPU
    with a D 960 dual-core at 3.6 GHz: the extra speed
    should help with computing RAID overhead,
    but we suspect that the x4 PCI-E ceiling will
    be the major limiting factor, not the CPU speed.

    BTW: this controller will operate at x8 speed
    in a slot that supports that speed e.g. server
    motherboard designed to accelerate storage
    subsystems.


    I hope this helps.


    p.s. We first tested each of the 8 drives separately,
    by XP "Quick" formatting each using our eSATA port:
    but, the 2322 detected these as "legacy" drives
    and handed them over to Windows XP as 8 x JBOD
    drives. Then, XP assigned 8 different drive letters,
    which conflicted with the remote drives we had
    already configured on this machine: happily,
    this problem disappeared when we combined all 8 drives
    into a single RAID 0.


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