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    Free and Open Source Software - Part 1

    Take a moment to play around with a live CD. No doubt many things will seem confusing at first, as there are a lot of tasks which are approached differently to under Windows. Explore all the option screens, try out all the
    little apps, just feel your way around. If it doesn't work at all, then the best advice I can give is to try another Live CD - and if neither work, then just walk away; you've not lost anything.
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    nice and clear article there. I was astonished a couple of months back when I found out how useful the gentoo live cd is. Instant ssh and networking is a real boost. Also, I find that gentoo has a better packaging system with the 'emerge' command. But that is a btw. Keep up the good work !

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    that was a good read - nice one Jo !

    I think driver issues put me off linux the first time , but if I can get knoppix working with my wifi card I shall be playing some more with it !
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    Like I say, the advantage with live CDs is you can muck about with them risk-free.

    For something very recent like wifi kit, you want the most up-to-date live CD you can find... I think SUSE released one for free based on their latest distribution, try looking for that.

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    Im put off Linux since I can not find linux drivers for my homepna based usb adsl connection. Not even knoppix works! Any suggestions would be greatfully recieved

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    what's the exact model of usb adsl modem?

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    my adsl HomePNA modem is a 2wire homenetwork 1200.

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    i can't see anything suggesting that it would work in USB mode, but there are sites which suggest that it might work in PNA mode with some hacking, or wireless mode easily. (assuming i'm looking at the right model).

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    im using it in home pna mode, using a usb adaptor which plugs into the phone socket. Can you point me in the right dirrection?

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    there is a driver for one particular manufacturer's USB PNA chips, in a driver named Pegasus. it may or may not be the same chip used in your device (you'd need to open it up to check), an ADMtek chip.

    i don't know which kernel the driver appeared in, but "modprobe pegasus" would force the driver to load, and it may work with something. http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=704 might also be of use

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    but that is for a pci based homepna network card, mine is ubs based. surely it wont work?

    Secondly im a linux newbie . how would i load the driver under knoppix , for example. what command lines would i need to use.>

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    On another note. I have speculated that a live Cd is a cunning way to break passwords from windows, since you need to have an offline file structure to access a sam file.

    but then assuming your passwords are proper, you should be allright anyway since it should take to the end of time to crack a good password... hmm.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killgORE
    On another note. I have speculated that a live Cd is a cunning way to break passwords from windows, since you need to have an offline file structure to access a sam file.

    but then assuming your passwords are proper, you should be allright anyway since it should take to the end of time to crack a good password... hmm.

    Just a thought.
    Well the protection on windows is usually setup so well that you can whack a LiveCD in a computer and grab whatever files you fancy. Encryption prevents this, of course, but I don't see many people using it...

    Nice article Jo, looking forward to the second installment.
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    don't want to shatter u're illusions of security.. I set my password to a simple dictionary word (7 chars long). Like 50% of idiotic people.

    Got my SAM file using a live cd. And cracked it in under 1 sec. This relies on the bios being set to autoboot from cd, but this is usually the case these days. this is now a recommended way to "reset" passwords on systems where you forgot the password.

    Fortunately it couldn't crack my real password for admin account when I gave it an hour. But there are better crackers out there... but they cost cash.

    In no way do I recommend hacking. I have only EVER attacked my own systems and I am NO good at it. Suffice to say this excersise has meant I have a no boot from cd, and a password on the bios now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killgORE
    In no way do I recommend hacking. I have only EVER attacked my own systems and I am NO good at it. Suffice to say this excersise has meant I have a no boot from cd, and a password on the bios now.
    *Clears your CMOS and hacks away...*

    I love how Linux shatters the security of Windows because Microsoft seem to have ignored the fact that OSes other than their own might be used on a system...

    In this day and age security is a huge concern, and things like this are NOT good at all!
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    u know.. I knew SOME smart git would mention the cmos..

    * glues it shut and prays no good mods are made for my bios *

    also.. i think it is harder to open a case in say an office - where u might want to crack it ? people will see and go wtf ? but again.. think we are stealing this thread somewhat !!

    Apologies Joe. It is a good clear article, and I am an admirer of the mpg123 app !!

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