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    Question Atkins Diet

    Anyone here doing the Atkins diet? I am going to try it for the next 2 weeks and wondering if anyone has any advice or food tips that actually work, bearing in mind I cant really afford to buy lots of expensive meats and fish for every single day.
    There's a thin person in every fat person.....that's because they just ate them.

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    Yeah, here's my advice.

    Don't bother.

    All you're doing is forcing your body to break down protein into sugars to use for energy. This process uses more energy and gives a lower yield than if your body was breaking down carbohydrates, so you'll see a weight loss. Initially the weight loss will be fairly rapid, depending how big you already are, but that happens with most diets.

    The weight loss rate will slow after a short while, but you will still carry on losing weight. The problems comes when you come off the diet... you start eating carbs again and your body will very effeciently break the sugars from them down, storing what it doesn't use and you start to put weight back on.

    You're far better off eating a balanced diet, where your rough calorie intake is less than your calorie expenditure and you'll lose weight gradually, steadily and it'll stay off.

    Don't forget that Dr. Atkins himslef died recently of a heart attack... something his family tried to actually stop the press from making public.

    It's all well and good for quick weight loss, but no-one seems to consider what they will do when they want to stop this diet and switch to a normal (hopefully healthy) one.
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    From a scientific standpoint the atkins diet is a very poor nutritional regime, personally a well balanced diet with moderate excersize will acheive a much more healthy result than the gross macronutrient imbalance induced by diets such as atkins.

    Several papers at a recent conference I was attending were describing some quite nasty long term health problems associated with diets such as this.

    so my 2p - Balanced diet with plenty of fruit and veg, couple this with moderate excersize and robert is very much your mothers brother!
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    I have now found my long lost handbook/guide I wrote while at Champneys... I'll send you copy, Cat. Pm me e-mail addy, yeah?
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    The Atkins diet is meant to be a long term diet and not just for 2 weeks.

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    And the problem with it being a long term diet is that it ignores all the knowledge gained so far about cholesterol related heart disease, bowel cancer and nutrition. The attraction of the diet is its rapid weight loss in the first few weeks and the novelty of being able to eat the very foods that most weight reduction diets tell you to reduce.

    Dr Atkins died of a coronary, his widow would not allow a post mortem... wouldn't you be suspicious of embarking on a diet devised by a man who ate it all his life, then died of the very thing his opponents said was the greatest danger from the diet?
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    As Deckard has said this diet has some serious health implications that I would take some time to consider beofre embarking on it. IMHO this is not the way to go as it is contrary to all the data generated by research as to what constitutes a healthy lifesytle.
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    Funnily enough I did disagree with Atkins for a long time. Ideally I want to lose about a stone but Im now thinking its weight thats not going to shift because I dont think Im technically overweight, just being a typical woman who's never happy I suppose
    Maybe I'll try the special K one instead....
    There's a thin person in every fat person.....that's because they just ate them.

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    Didn't Dr Atkins die of a Brain Haemmorage after slipping on ice on the pavement?
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    There is a certain amount of controversy about how Dr. Atkins died, i.e. brain haemorage or coronary that induced the slip on the ice. To be honest though this is irrelevant.

    The latest research shows that there is only one mechanism by which the Atkins diet works, protein is an appetite suppressant. (All the other postulated mechanisms have pretty much been shown to be red herrings.)

    Thus even though you can eat what you want, you start to eat less because the extra protein level in you diet is causing you to want to eat less. Consequently you start to consume less calories and so lose weight. If you then come off the diet you will want to eat more and so put weight back on, usually more than you took off because you body adapts to the lower energy intake whilst on the diet.

    There are however still a large number of potential negative aspects to this diet;

    1. High Cholesterol
    2. Renal conditions relating to high amounts of Nitrogen (from protein)
    3. Bowel Complaints inc. Bad Breath / Wind / Constipation / IBS
    4. Cancer due to high level of free radicals in animal protein and fat

    These will only be proved if people are daft enough to stay on the diet for prolonged periods i.e. years. Then it will turn up in autopsies / medical conditions

    There is one sure way to lose weight - eat a healthy balanced diet and alter your energy in : used ratio. Eat less - move more !!

    However, there a number of ways that you can make losing the weight less painful, which I can post if your interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenPiggy
    Didn't Dr Atkins die of a Brain Haemmorage after slipping on ice on the pavement?
    No one knows. His widow refused an autopsy.
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    Atkins are actually sponsoring a conference that my department is hosting on diet and obesity research, they stipulated that for them to sponsor they would have to be allowed to put a speaker of their choosing into the program (Worried nobody else would say anything nice about their diet manipulations??).

    Site is below:

    www.abdn.ac.uk/acero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Woman
    Funnily enough I did disagree with Atkins for a long time. Ideally I want to lose about a stone but Im now thinking its weight thats not going to shift because I dont think Im technically overweight, just being a typical woman who's never happy I suppose
    Maybe I'll try the special K one instead....
    You want to go on the Atkins and you're not even overweight?

    Don't bother with the Special K diet either: do some regular exercise instead. Being reasonably fit and having a fast metablolism rules, you can pretty much stuff your face with impunity- as I frequently do.

    Rich :¬)

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