Which speed ram

[sutty86]

Hey guys,
its been a few years since ive had a pc,
was going to build one but got given an hp compaq elite 8000
first i want to upgrade the gpu which ive bought a 2gb 6570
now i want to sort my ram out
it currentley has 2 sticks of 1gb 1333mhz ram in,
ive found a good deal on 2 x 2gb of kingston hyperx 1600mhz
just wondering before i buy would it run okay.

Chipset is q45/q43
mobo is a HP 3646h

Thanks

[Demonwar]

That's a business desktop, and quite a old one. At least 2/3 years old at a guess. Some problems I foresee :

The mobo is (I think) probably limited to the speed that it already has RAM wise. So you will wasting money on faster sticks. In fact I've read that the actually chipset might only support 1066, guess HP just stick the higher speeds in for the fact it looks quicker. The crucial memory checker seems to agree with me.

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...itower&Cat=RAM

Other issues :

As a business machines it's fairly limited and I believe that you may issues with high end graphics cards, I doubt the PSU has the extra plugs or you use adapters it won't be up to the job, they assign the bare minimums.
Also you won't be able to upgrade the PSU as the HP mobo I think has a proprietary power feed.

The graphics card compatibilities are quite bad as well, HP only test a handful of Quadro style cards and quite often normal cards just don't work.

[csgohan4]

That's a business desktop, and quite a old one. At least 2/3 years old at a guess. Some problems I foresee :

The mobo is (I think) probably limited to the speed that it already has RAM wise. So you will wasting money on faster sticks. In fact I've read that the actually chipset might only support 1066, guess HP just stick the higher speeds in for the fact it looks quicker. The crucial memory checker seems to agree with me.

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...itower&Cat=RAM

Other issues :

As a business machines it's fairly limited and I believe that you may issues with high end graphics cards, I doubt the PSU has the extra plugs or you use adapters it won't be up to the job, they assign the bare minimums.
Also you won't be able to upgrade the PSU as the HP mobo I think has a proprietary power feed.

The graphics card compatibilities are quite bad as well, HP only test a handful of Quadro style cards and quite often normal cards just don't work.

I agree with Demonwar, you will probably be better off saving up and building a new setup, you can get a decent one for around 600-800 pounds.

[sutty86]

thank you for your reply,
i was going to build a cheap i3 rig, but was given this,
to be honest ive got a gt 520 in atm and it seems to be playing games okay like skyrim etc
as im only using a 20inch monitor,
so the 6570 should be even better in theory
Thanks for the heads up on the ram,
ive bought it anyway, as if i do end up upgrading, i think the mobo will be the first to go aswell as the case,
and the ram is more future proof that way....

Is there a piece of software which will tell me what speed my ram is running at?
on cpuz atm its running at 532 mhz

[sutty86]

funds are quite strict atm,
the wifes going mad as we are saving up for a family hol,
might have to slyly sell some bits and bats

[csgohan4]

funds are quite strict atm,
the wifes going mad as we are saving up for a family hol,
might have to slyly sell some bits and bats

Well if you have the monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers and a decent case you would have saved some money. Which is why once you have good components like a PSU/CASE it will last throughout your future builds.

In terms of a program to see your ram speed, look up CPU Z, it runs in windows

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Hey guys,
its been a few years since ive had a pc,
was going to build one but got given an hp compaq elite 8000
first i want to upgrade the gpu which ive bought a 2gb 6570
now i want to sort my ram out
it currentley has 2 sticks of 1gb 1333mhz ram in,
ive found a good deal on 2 x 2gb of kingston hyperx 1600mhz
just wondering before i buy would it run okay.

Chipset is q45/q43
mobo is a HP 3646h

Thanks

What CPU do you have now?? CPU-Z will tell you. Also can you list the rest of your PC parts?? Do you have a SATA hard drive for example and a SATA optical driver.

If you get a Llano A8 CPU,you can Crossfire the HD6570 with the IGP and get a boost in performance.

A Core i3 2100 or 2120 would be better if you were going for a more powerful card like the HD6850 or HD6870.

Edit!!

Here is a review with later drivers testing out the Hybrid Crossfire:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...Review/1470/12

The drivers were not so mature at launch last year,but scaling has improved.

[sutty86]

cheers lads
i have a e7500 in there,
dram freq is 532mhz
even though its 1333mhz ddr3

[csgohan4]

cheers lads
i have a e7500 in there,
dram freq is 532mhz
even though its 1333mhz ddr3

If the motherboard only supports 532MHZ it won't go over that, even if you put in 2400MHZ ram. Same goes for the CPU the motherboard supports, it won't work if you put in a I7 2600K for e.g

As Demonwar mentioned HP might put a higher spec RAM to make it sound better. Unfortunately your not going to get much out of a machine that's soley for office use 2-3 years ago if you intend to use it for todays games.

[sutty86]

do you not multiply dram by 2
so in that case my ram is 1066,
well to be fair its playing games okay on the 520

i dont expect it to be a powerhouse at all! seriously i just wanted to see how far i could take it.

next buy will be a case and psu
Cheers

[csgohan4]

do you not multiply dram by 2
so in that case my ram is 1066,
well to be fair its playing games okay on the 520

i dont expect it to be a powerhouse at all! seriously i just wanted to see how far i could take it.

next buy will be a case and psu
Cheers

Duh of course, my mistake lol. Unless it's regular DDRAM

[sutty86]

cheers
like i say last build i did was am2
new to intel so many different cpu sockets etc
Cheers again

[csgohan4]

cheers
like i say last build i did was am2
new to intel so many different cpu sockets etc
Cheers again

Yeah I only recently bought my system and I came from a Q9450 intel quad core 2 (Before I7), I had to do alot of reading and reviews to get up to speed with current developments, crazy how advanced things have become

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

cheers
like i say last build i did was am2
new to intel so many different cpu sockets etc
Cheers again

The HD6570 will be more powerful than a GT520. Also,is the AM2 build another computer you have??

If so what are the specifications of this system,especially the motherboard?? If it can take a Phenom II, you can get a Phenom II X4 965 for around £74 off Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-HDZ965FB...9348084&sr=8-1

[sutty86]

Cheers cat, not i had a phenom b50 which i unlocked to a quad a few years ago,
sold up,
i go though phases you see,