what mobo for x570?

[ik9000]

Trying to choose between:

Asus Crosshair Hero VIII
Gigabyte Arous Master
MSI ACE
and the new curveball MSI unify

Anyone know what customer support is like with these and is anyone using any of them? I just want something stable that will last.

[ik9000]

seeing as no-one replied to this and it's had 1000+ views for anyone with the same question get the Aorus Master. Best spec: price balance, better RMA (uk based) etc. I went Msi ACE and it's ok but I don't like MSi branded software, and things like not being able to swap the chipset fan for a water block etc annoy me. As does not being able to install one of the mounting screws because their BS heatsink shroud covers it! UEFI/BIOS is ok but not amazing, really poor manual/guidance, support just directs you to an awful forum that half the time you can't even log into, unless you're German and can use their one. Every time I tinker with it I just wish I'd gone Aorus Master. AM has better VRM cooling, 2 extra sata ports and 2 full-length NVMe slots too (Ace only has 1 and 4 sata ports). Now you can also get waterblocks for the AM chipset it really is a no-brainer. That heatpipe on the ACE just isn't worth it.

[neojay]

Hi mate,

Thanks for coming back to this thread, I'm in the process of making this exact decision and you have set me on the right path.

[ik9000]

The only pros to the msi Ace over the master are:
32MB bios chip (may or may not make a difference going forwards)
cheaper
native PS2 port
heatsink fan not blocked by GPU
slightly higher top ram speed
possibly a more stable ram controller for extreme overclocking according to a few threads I've read, but not sure if that makes a difference to the average user.

Hopefully EKWB will make a chipset waterblock similar to the Master, but nothing showing so far.

Provided the Master supports next gen CPUs and beyond then I'd still go Master over the ACE and swap that chipset fan on day 1.

[MrJim]

Although it's not released yet, on paper the MSI X570 Tomahawk looks like it will be great value, offering a strong VRM configuration at about the £200 mark. Obviously worth waiting for reviews though.

Edit!

Motherboard analysis here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2KbpmMg44M

[ik9000]

People said that about the unify but again as with that board unreinforced ram slots and easy to break clips. Nah. £200 should get you better than that.

[MrJim]

People said that about the unify but again as with that board unreinforced ram slots and easy to break clips. Nah. £200 should get you better than that.

I think reinforced ram slots are a bit pointless really. I mean how much does a DIMM weigh, even one with large heat spreaders & RGB? Reinforced PCIe slots make some sense at least, due to the weight of modern GPUs.

[Helios451]

Provided the Master supports next gen CPUs and beyond then I'd still go Master over the ACE and swap that chipset fan on day 1.

Well, my X570 Gigabyte Master has arrived. I've yet to received enough parts to proceed to the build stage, but in the meantime it is totally reassuring sight to behold!

My forum settings do not yet allow me to post any attachments, so no pic (I hope that gets changed before I want to post by build log pics).

One point on the board is that both Buildziod and Gamers Nexus both rate it highly.

[DanceswithUnix]

I think reinforced ram slots are a bit pointless really. I mean how much does a DIMM weigh, even one with large heat spreaders & RGB? Reinforced PCIe slots make some sense at least, due to the weight of modern GPUs.

Perhaps the photon pressure from all those LEDs?

[ik9000]

Perhaps the photon pressure from all those LEDs?

no but I've read people complaining about the slots breaking on the first RAM change. I think the thread was on ocuk but don't quote me on that.

[MrJim]

no but I've read people complaining about the slots breaking on the first RAM change. I think the thread was on ocuk but don't quote me on that.

I can understand someone cracking a motherboard PCB by using too much pressure when inserting a DIMM (especially if they've not used all the motherboard standoffs when installing the motherboard in the case. I've seen build videos where someone just put the four outer standoffs on an ATX motherboard out of laziness). But cracking the PCB in that scenario would happen whether or not the ram slot was reinforced. Likewise, I suppose it would be possible to break-off a clip at either end of the slot if you were really heavy handed, but again, the reinforced ram slot wouldn't prevent that either. But to actually break the ram slot itself? I'd love to see how that could happen?

[ik9000]

Well, my X570 Gigabyte Master has arrived. I've yet to received enough parts to proceed to the build stage, but in the meantime it is totally reassuring sight to behold!

My forum settings do not yet allow me to post any attachments, so no pic (I hope that gets changed before I want to post by build log pics).

One point on the board is that both Buildziod and Gamers Nexus both rate it highly.

you'll get picture and url rights soon, when you do consider using imgbb as it lets you create thumbnails for embedding with autolinks to higher res pop-out images. Really handy.

[Helios451]

you'll get picture and url rights soon, when you do consider using imgbb as it lets you create thumbnails for embedding with autolinks to higher res pop-out images. Really handy.

Great, thanks - I take it the image posting rights accrue with number of posts. If so, I'll post away...

Thanks also for the point towards imgbb as a means to post images. I'll try and exploit that to the full.

[ik9000]

Great, thanks - I take it the image posting rights accrue with number of posts. If so, I'll post away...

Thanks also for the point towards imgbb as a means to post images. I'll try and exploit that to the full.

see here: https://forums.hexus.net/general-dis...r-rewards.html

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The MSI Tomahawk seems to be the X570 value champion - apparently its arriving in a few weeks,at just over £200.

[ik9000]

loop back to #5!!