what router?

[b0redom]

I have a Vigor 2820Vn. I can have up to 4 wireless networks. Just force everyone to use wireless #2 and throttle that to whatever you want. You can use wired/wireless network #1 and not throttle it.

[Biscuit]

Be will NEVER throttle you. I believe O2 are similar, as are sky.

BE also have ZERO traffic shaping.

Their FUP is worth a read, absolutely nothing at all like BTs. Nothing to do with time or data....it's all about hacking really.

From BE:

Making excessive use of, or placing unusual burdens on, the network, for example by sending or receiving large volumes of email or excessively large email attachments

WHAT ABOUT EXCESSIVE NETWORK USAGE?
If it's felt that any Be member's Internet activities are so excessive that other members are detrimentally affected, Be may give the member generating the excessive web traffic a written warning (by email or otherwise). In extreme circumstances, should the levels of activity not immediately decrease after the warning, Be may terminate that member's services.

All i said was they CAN throttle you according to their FUP. I suppose i was a bit incorrect in that they state they will just cut you off. O2 is very similar except their new policies actually state a bandwidth limit.
I know these things because i am on O2 and they told me when they offered to change policies.
The problem with O2/BE that i have noticed is that they oversubscribe, so you are throttled purely by contention

[shaithis]

BE over subscribe? Where are you reading about that too? I have never seen a slow down (and I am a very heavy user) and their upgrade program seems to be constantly adding capacity.

It's the reason they are not part of the current FTTC system. They have struck a deal with BT to be outside of the usual contracts so that BE users can continue to use their connections how they want and at maximum performance. Trawling their forums you won't find anyone with performance issues unless it's down to the sync speed of their line......and their blog post on the fibre issue pretty much sums up their mindset.

The FUP is basically saying: Don't spam, don't hack, don't be a nuisance.

[Biscuit]

perhaps the over subscription is just with O2 then, i was under the impression they where exactly the same lines.

[DDY]

perhaps the over subscription is just with O2 then, i was under the impression they where exactly the same lines.

They are the same lines.

I've never been throttled on either my O2 or Be connection, although it's worth noting there was a period where O2 were throttling connections for those who've joined after thier terms were updated.

[Biscuit]

nope im still on the old contract. I either get throttled or the contention is bad for me. I spent ages on the phone to them trying to get to the bottom of it and got nowhere.

Maybe you dont, maybe your area is different to mine but i dont get full bandwidth downloads at all times of the day... and its not related to the host either before you suggest it.

[DDY]

There are certainly congested exchanges on the Be network, as you say I'm in a different area, i.e. on a different exchange and not subject to the same level of congestion.

If you haven't already, you can run ping tests like the ones at f8lure for a better idea of how your connection performs over time.

You should get a graph that looks like this:

[Biscuit]

thanks for the link but lets not hijack the thread any longer

[scaryjim]

Contention is always going to be a potential issue on any type of broadband. Example: I used to have a 3 wireless broadband dongle. Living near Salford Quays, I never got better than ~ 50KB/s download (~ 512Kbps link), and usually a lot less than that, due to network contention. When we moved to Longsight, we rarely got less than ~400KB/s download (~ 3.6Mb/s link), purely because of the much lower contention out here. The link speeds reported by the dongle were always the same, either 3.6Mbps or 7.2Mbps.

However, it does sound like the OP's problem is not contention based, but FUP. I think the easiest solution would be to get rid of this particular set of lodgers ASAP, tbh...