Wireless router recommendation

[MadduckUK]

it needs to be a "broadband router" bob, a standard jobbie wont talk to the cable modem in the right way. but if thats what you have then you have all you need

[redlight]

How about this
Draytek Vigor 2910G VPN Dual WAN Wireless Broadband Router

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ProductID=3953

[jamin]

Make sure you power the modem down though when you plug everything in so that it can learn the new MAC of the router.

[Dreaming]

Thanks for that reply!!

So does that meant that if I have a router already (and I have a couple, one that is a Gigabit jobbie, the other that is a combined ADSL-modem router) I don't in fact need the Buffalo unit at all?

Also, I'm presuming that the cable modem is typically intended to connect to a single PC via USB.

Is that the case and, if it is, do I actually need to have this connection at all if I am using a router to connect this and other PCs to the cable-modem?

I'm not sure, but I think so. We just use a linksys wireless router, quite old... plug the broadband into the 'internet' plug, and then computers into the LAN things, or connect via wireless.

[Bob Crabtree]

it needs to be a "broadband router" bob, a standard jobbie wont talk to the cable modem in the right way. but if thats what you have then you have all you need

Thanks for that.

What I currently have is a Netgear DG834 wireless modem router (plus a separate four-port gigabit switch).

So, I reckon I won't panic yet a while, I'll just see how I get on, cos from what you say, it may well turn out that I've bought exactly what I need.

[Bob Crabtree]

I'm not sure, but I think so. We just use a linksys wireless router, quite old... plug the broadband into the 'internet' plug, and then computers into the LAN things, or connect via wireless.

My curiousity is well and truly roused - roll on Wednesday!

[Agent]

Thanks for that.

What I currently have is a Netgear DG834 wireless modem router (plus a separate four-port gigabit switch).

So, I reckon I won't panic yet a while, I'll just see how I get on, cos from what you say, it may well turn out that I've bought exactly what I need.

The Netgear DG834 is an ADSL router (its a router with an ADSL modem built in), and can not be used for cable

A switch only has switching ability - not routing (hence why they are called routers ), so wont do the job either

What you need Bob, is a router with an Ethernet WAN port. These are often called ‘broadband routers’ or ‘cable routers’.
You do not replace the modem given to you by Virgin. You still use this, but it plugs into your new router. This is unlike ADSL in which, the majority of the time, the ADSL modem and router are combined into one.

Once setup, it will look like this:

Wall socket -> Coax cable to the Virgin Modem -> From the Ethernet port on the Virgin modem to the “WAN / uplink (same thing)” port on the router -> any machines just connect to the router then like a switch.

Hope that clears things up

edit - btw, cable modems can be fairly expensive to buy. Cable Company’s usually forbid you replacing this equipment too, and may cease your connection if you did!
Quite simply, they get very arsey about it. Dont do it

[Metier9]

*scratchs self*

what are you trying to do?

[MadduckUK]

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...Thumbnails=yes

something from this page. Agents desscription of the situation was pretty much perfect

[Metier9]

Well i may of missed what ya want but...

the cable modem is connected by coax to NTLs network. The cable modem itself has its own MAC address, so if you want to replace it you need to remember to enter this into the new modem and conform to the settings that NTL use.

I dont know if PCWorld (dont shoot me) have the linksys wireless cable broadband routers or not, but they are very good also not much diff on price (bought it because i couldnt be arsed to wait, was an offer on).

so the coax goes to the cable modem, the cable modem goes to the router e.g. Linksys WRT54G with a standard ethernet cable. Then connect computers with wired or wireless connection.

[Bob Crabtree]

The Netgear DG834 is an ADSL router (its a router with an ADSL modem built in), and can not be used for cable

A switch only has switching ability - not routing (hence why they are called routers ), so wont do the job either

What you need Bob, is a router with an Ethernet WAN port. These are often called ‘broadband routers’ or ‘cable routers’.
You do not replace the modem given to you by Virgin. You still use this, but it plugs into your new router. This is unlike ADSL in which, the majority of the time, the ADSL modem and router are combined into one.

Once setup, it will look like this:

Wall socket -> Coax cable to the Virgin Modem -> From the Ethernet port on the Virgin modem to the “WAN / uplink (same thing)” port on the router -> any machines just connect to the router then like a switch.

Hope that clears things up

edit - btw, cable modems can be fairly expensive to buy. Cable Company’s usually forbid you replacing this equipment too, and may cease your connection if you did!
Quite simply, they get very arsey about it. Dont do it

Thanks! This confirms what I'd started to believe, that, in fact, the purchase I've made of the Buffalo cable router will turn out to be exactly what I wanted and needed!

Phew!

Roll on Wednesday!

[Bob Crabtree]

Well i may of missed what ya want but...

the cable modem is connected by coax to NTLs network. The cable modem itself has its own MAC address, so if you want to replace it you need to remember to enter this into the new modem and conform to the settings that NTL use.

I dont know if PCWorld (dont shoot me) have the linksys wireless cable broadband routers or not, but they are very good also not much diff on price (bought it because i couldnt be arsed to wait, was an offer on).

so the coax goes to the cable modem, the cable modem goes to the router e.g. Linksys WRT54G with a standard ethernet cable. Then connect computers with wired or wireless connection.

And thanks to you, too!

I am now a much happier bunny, cos I had been thinking I'd wasted my money with that Buffalo box but now now better and realise that it's exactly what I need.

The really odd thing about this (and Sod's Law at work), I went round a mate's place on Saturday only to realise that he had Virgin Media broadband (originally NTL).

I took a look at the hardware and saw that the way it was set up was exactly as described here, so hardware failures (and no-shows) apart, I'm expecting a smooth run on Wednesday, though I'm curious about how the engineer will get a cable from the front of the building to my office/lab in the rear.

Again, thanks to all, you've made an old man happy!

[Agent]

....though I'm curious about how the engineer will get a cable from the front of the building to my office/lab in the rear.

Detached house? Semi?
We have an 'entry' or whatever you call them between our house and next door. He ran the cable down there and up.
If he cant do that, you'll have to have it routed via the inside of your house.
Work out a plan before they get there - works out a lot easier

When I had mine done a few months back, it was quite literally "here's how I want it, here's a cupa, off you go". 30mins later it was all up and running

[Metier9]

It involves a big drill to get through the outer wall and lots of sealent hehe

[Bob Crabtree]

Detached house? Semi?
We have an 'entry' or whatever you call them between our house and next door. He ran the cable down there and up.
If he cant do that, you'll have to have it routed via the inside of your house.
Work out a plan before they get there - works out a lot easier

When I had mine done a few months back, it was quite literally "here's how I want it, here's a cupa, off you go". 30mins later it was all up and running

Thanks for the comments - you were right in saying I needed to give this some serious thought myself!

And that's just what I've done. I

I've now come up with a route for the cable and, despite the fact that the building is semi-detached, I reckon that the best strategy will be having it run through the building.

Running the cable around the outside will mean that it has to pass through a mini-conservatory alongside the house (which is likely to have to be pulled down at some stage); around an extension to the kitchen, through the wall of another conservatory that backs onto my office (and is unlikely to last another winter) and then into the office through the main exterior wall of the house.

Going that exterior route not only means drilling through five walls (including the one directly behind the AV system in the living room) but also means that there's a good chance of the cable getting messed up by future unavoidable building works.

Trouble is, routing everything through the house means my having to move a WHOLE lot of stuff that's racked up and covering two of the the walls that the fitter will need to drill through.

But I still think this is far and away the best option.

The fitter is still going to have to drill that one hole through an outside wall behind the AV system in the living room (nearby where two satellite cables come in; one Sky, one the long-deceased digital BSB system. Anyone want to buy a squarial?) - and then backtrack along the route of an existing telephone cable which runs from the office to the Sky box.

This passes out of the office through one interior wall, over and round a doorway, through another interior wall, then over a double doorway, along a skirting board and then (in theory) around the fireplace under the carpet, to arrive around at the back of the AV system.

I say "in theory" cos although I made sure that the Sky fitter left me enough cable to run under the carpet, I never did get round to lifting the carpet and putting it underneath so, instead, the cable just goes straight across the fireplace.

That's not pretty but it's not a big deal, not least cos the fireplace doesn't ever have a fire in it. And, in addition to the phone cable, a whole bunch of other cables criss-cross the fireplace already - for surround-sound speakers and to take an RF signal from the Sky box to a TV in the dining room.

I'll just have to make sure that I get the Virgin Media fitter to leave enough slack for me to also run that broadband co-ax cable under the carpet (or, at least, in a bit of conduit running round the fireplace) when I do finally get round to having a proper tidy up of all the cables.

Mind - I'm not looking forward to moving all the that racked up stuff before he turns up (and am I going to be mad if I do that and he doesn't come as scheduled!)

So, thanks again for getting me to focus on this issue properly!

[Metier9]

your on a mission and half lol