can i bridge our network to my chicks sisters wireless for speed?

[weebroonieuk]

just wondering if you can bridge two wifi networks to get increase our speed?

were both dsl and we can pick up her network pretty easy shes on mega slow bb just now but shes quite happy to upgrade if i were to pay for it and seeing as were maxed where we are i thought that would be the easiest solution if its possible that is!

i remember you could do it with two phone lines for dialup,
windows just changed the other lines dialup ip within itself for things to work or something like that?

i doubt it will be possible no doubt due to something within the wireless protocol or more likely because thats my luck

[Funkstar]

You might actually be able to do that with wireless routers that have had their firmware replaced. I know the origianl hacked Linksys WP54G could act as part of a mesh network, but not sure about connection bonding.

Without paying lots of money for specialist networking hardware, i would guess that investigating some of the hacked firmwares for different boxes would be your best bet.

Bear in mine that i'm only guessing here

[weebroonieuk]

cool thanks for that i will have a dig around if it involved anymore than purchasing something like another AP or something like that then i wouldnt bother, if she was directly through the wall id put an ethernet cable through as ive probably got more chance of connecting two wired connections than 2 wireless

i had tried a bit of searching on google before i posted but everything was about actually bridgeing , extending the reach of a network which isnt much use nothing seemed to combin to seperate connections

[ultim8um]

Certainly can't be done without special hardware or firmware AFAIK... What you are asking for is a wireless bridge / AP with load balancing capabilities...

[weebroonieuk]

yes something like that ...... lol i dunno what it would be called exactly as the terms i use just keep bringing standard bridging devices :S


the hunt continues

[badass]

Am I right in thinking that you want to use both DSL lines simultaneously to boost the speed?
If so, the answer's mixed. You oculd set things up in such a way that applications that dont care about latency hammer one of the DSL lines while latency sensetive applications like gaming use the other.
You will not, however be able to load balance between the 2 lines to get 16 Mbit on one download from 2 8mbit DSL lines

The above is not strictly true, but in your case you can take it as true

[weebroonieuk]

lol thanks for letting me down gently

i did consider using both lines seperately and using say an old laptop with a big drive attached or indeed just network it to my file storage drives in my media center as a dedicated download box

the idea of using a laptop has a few benfits low power conumption low amount of space required for it and the built in battery is always handy for little power outtages but nothing major obviously


and using our own dsl line in our house for general browsing while the dl box takes care of the heavy stuff....


is it legal for me to download pre ripped xvids from the more famous release people that i already own on dvd?

reason i ask is that ive noticed on some torrents that i have they seem to be better at adjusting the compression settings than i am as sometimes i end up with some silly sized xvid's lol #

im not really fussed as my fav films ive ripped the iso of it because some dvd's have excellent extra's so i will probably stick to this method and just keep the ones purchased but probably never get opened in the collection cupboard!

[Kumagoro]

You can get routers which can do the sort of thing you want and there is a program which you can install on a pc with two wireless cards to turn it into
router which will do roughly what you want.

When I was looking it up the phrase connection teaming was used.

[Spud1]

in response to your xvid question - no this is still 100% illegal

Technically you *could* mix your two lines but it's very expensive to do so, much easier and cheaper to go with what badass said

[badass]

You can get routers which can do the sort of thing you want and there is a program which you can install on a pc with two wireless cards to turn it into
router which will do roughly what you want.

When I was looking it up the phrase connection teaming was used.

You've got the wrong end of the stick
Connection teaming is used when you have 2 NIC's on one server/workstation connected to the same network. Teaming is when they are setup to work as one with double the speed.

Using multiple Broadband lines that appear as one is called bonding.
For bonding to work, you need an ISP that supports it and a router that the ISP supports for bonding. Andrews and Arnold are such an ISP (I use them myself and they are very good but expensive)

[weebroonieuk]

are they reassuringly expensive ? if they are i cant help myself to throw money at companys that are

kumagoro when i was having a rething about how it could be done your idea was what occured to me as im pretty sure one wireless card will not pick up 2 router signals or a nic will not pic up 2 ethernet cards

what about a switch they seem to be wonderboxes from what i hear

some you can apparently just plug in all your network cables and your broadband cable and it sorts out the network and connects them to the uplink ?

that sounds far too sensible to me and surely cant be that easy?

thanks for the input anyway guys got few thing to look at then i will be off pestering google about this !

[weebroonieuk]

oh and you say a router that supports it, do you mean a dsl router that will have 2 modems built in ?

or will it be 2 modem/routers maybe with a network going from one to a special router that supports it or 2 normal ones going into a dedicated router that accepts only ethernet connections?

and hopefully plugging in an AP for wireless clients too


am i right in thinking my upload will be more or less doubled ? as the download speeds keep getting higher but the uploads aint much to talk about ....

[badass]

oh and you say a router that supports it, do you mean a dsl router that will have 2 modems built in ?

or will it be 2 modem/routers maybe with a network going from one to a special router that supports it or 2 normal ones going into a dedicated router that accepts only ethernet connections?

and hopefully plugging in an AP for wireless clients too


am i right in thinking my upload will be more or less doubled ? as the download speeds keep getting higher but the uploads aint much to talk about ....

http://aaisp.net.uk/aa/aaisp/multiline.html
This answers your questions
The most expensive part is the firewall/router they recommend, the Firebrick 105. Its £411 inc VAT.
The rental of 2 broadband lines isn't cheap either.

[weebroonieuk]

ouch my boxers filled there i thought you meant 3.4k for that router lol its "only" 411 quid u put an extra 3 in to scare me away .....

and it appears that bonding is an extra i may have to buy for the line to add onto the initial cost!

there must be cheaper ones that can do the same job as it does say it needs just a basic router that wont do any NAT work on the lines possibly one of the several hacked routers out there ? that will be another searchfest!

if the cost of their router is a one time investment i could almost swallow it if need be (not finding a cheaper solution
but renting 2 of their premium lines is damn expensive even there normal 8mb line is twice the price of our ukonline one and weve never had a problem in over a year and it does fairly good down speeds when your coming of good server ive seen high 600's maybe 7's i cant remember thats KB and not kbit aswell

i will have my work cut out trying to find some providers who are as open about their services as yours is aside from their cost they are a very tech friendly company and seem like a quality outfit, first sign of trouble from ukonline and id probably switch to them!

but for my indulgance id rather 2 cheaper lines failing that im gonna have an empty wallet

have you considered the bonding feature ?

[badass]

ouch my boxers filled there i thought you meant 3.4k for that router lol its "only" 411 quid u put an extra 3 in to scare me away .....

Doh! Corrected

have you considered the bonding feature ?

Nope, too expensive an IMHO overkill for a home setup.
Says me, with 32 static IP addresses for the place

[Kumagoro]

I asked a similar question a year or two ago and I found this

Sygate Office Network 4.5 Im dont think the website exists which explains
what it does but from what I remember you build a computer with two
wireless nics and run this pseudo operating system on it and it acts as a
router. I guess like a load balancing router.