hi, help!

[Thorsson]

ok how to i set it to 1.55V?

You can only do this in the BIOS. The mobo looks unusual so we'll probably have to take this slowly. Do you have a digital camera? If so take a picture of the initial BIOS screen (normally accessed by pressing the <Del> key repeatedly during the early bootup phase) attach it to a message and we'll take it from there.

http://forums.hexus.net/faq.php?faq=...chment_explain

[GoNz0]

i have that gut feeling its a PC chips board using VIA sensors, so the voltage may be right after all and showing wrong as its a pants chipset.. time to hold the heatsink. if you can hold it, then its fine, if you cant hang on more than 5 seconds, or leave some skin behind then its to damn hot !

[Thorsson]

And if the temps are actually OK, then we start thinking that it's that wonderful new RAM...

[GoNz0]

well if its a 1.5v chip, it wouldnt boot at 2.5, it may explode, but doubt it would boot

[iranu]

I'd like to see another program report on that voltage it seems very high. Download cpu-z. Top left hand side of that page version 1.40.5. is the latest.

The downloaded file will look like this - it's a .rar file that needs to be extracted (uncompressed) by using winrar - If you haven't got winrar then the top one of the given link will work so download and install that. Then you can right click on the CPU-Z .rar downlaod and select extract here. Then run cpu-z (application 1,047kb) and on the first page it should give you the voltage of your cpu.

[quintinius]

guys ur giving me waaayyy to many things to download and what the hell is a heatsink?

[iranu]

A cooler for a cpu is made up of two parts - the heatsink and the fan.



The heatsink is usually the large silver square thing that has lots of fins on. The blue bit above is the fan.

Read this for a quick overview about what a heatsink is and does.

Keep asking those questions, it's the only way to learn. We'll get to the bottom of your problem one way or another

[Thorsson]

well if its a 1.5v chip, it wouldnt boot at 2.5, it may explode, but doubt it would boot

It's 2.16V IIRC. Still seems way too high to think it could run a couple of hours. But the chip should run at ~50C and is running at 80C, so maybe he's got an exceptional chip.

[quintinius]

oh i see it now so what i turn off computer next time it crashes and touch the thing?
and its very rare that it hits 80 but alot of the time it can be 60-75 which is normal and if 50 is he adverage then its sitll too high so just wanted to make it clear its not at 80 everyday, only when im playing wow for the whole day and totally ignore all the crashes for about hlf an hr and also my heatsink doesnt have a little blue thing on top its just a big lump of sliver with little finns is that becoz its a pants cheap mincey peice of mince?

[Thorsson]

Ah, it sounds like you only have a passive HS. Obviously the Celeron is not supposed to get that hot, therefore not needing a fan. I'm wondering if in fact, partly due to your heavy use, possibly a high ambient temp, possibly a less than brilliant build (passive HS requires good airflow in the case), you've been having high temps for a while, and now your CPU is a little fragile.

Fitting a fan might work then as it would cool things a fair bit, or better a new HSF (for this job neither is expensive). I guess you'd have to get someone to do either though - it's not the ideal first job if you've never done anything yourself before.

[Pob255]

The blue bit on the picture is a fan, that's all. Don't worry if it does not look exactly the same

Can I ask who/where you got this pc from?
If it was from a well known manufactor then it'll probably have a model name/number (eg dell dimension 9200) that will be of help to us in tracking down what's excatly inside it.
It sounds like you've not got a stock intell cooler but some thing else. (Don't worry they can be quite common.)
Or You've got a giant northbridge heatsink and you've got them mixed up.
eg

While there's no bit's on that motherboard, the red line is pointing to the place the cpu would go (with a heatsink & fan ontop of that)
The large heatsink in the middle is over the northbridge.
EDIT: that's a rather large northbridge heatsink compaired to most, again if your northbridge heat sink is smaller or has a fan on it, don't panic they are differnt on almost every motherboard.

[Thorsson]

A search revealed only one company with the name "Eaglestar" (see Computer name earlier), in Cheltenham called Eagle Star Computer Services. If this is the builder then it's quite possible he has only half a clue what he is doing. These local shops are very hit and miss. I wouldn't trust the one near me further than I could throw a 21" CRT.

Anyway, we might be able to work out what the BIOS is and also what the guy did with the RAM - using Everest again.

quintinius: as before except this time select Summary in the left pane (after opening up Computer), run the report again and copy and paste the Summary section.

[quintinius]

ok thors heres the summary--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
Computer Type ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.11 (IE 7.0)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name EAGLESTAR
User Name Admin
Logon Domain [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Date / Time 2004-01-21 / 16:52

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Celeron D 320, 2400 MHz (18 x 133)
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset VIA PM800/PM880/PN800
System Memory [ TRIAL VERSION ]
BIOS Type Award (04/19/04)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP (64 MB)
Video Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP (64 MB)
3D Accelerator VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro
Monitor TECO TE770 [17" CRT] (0)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter VIA VT1617(A) @ VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller

Storage:
IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Storage Controller VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive HDS728080PLAT20 (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Optical Drive ARTEC WRR-52Z (52x/32x/52x CD-RW)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Total Size [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Input:
Keyboard HID Keyboard Device
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Network:
Primary IP Address [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Primary MAC Address 00-11-50-0D-5E-47
Network Adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (192. [ TRIAL VERSION ])
Network Adapter VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Modem Communications cable between two computers

Peripherals:
Printer EPSON Stylus C42 Series (Copy 1)
Printer EPSON Stylus C42 Series
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT8237 USB Universal Host Controller
USB2 Controller VIA VT8237 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device Unknown Device
USB Device Unknown Device
USB Device USB Human Interface Device

DMI:
DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG
DMI System Manufacturer VIA Technologies, Inc.
DMI System Product PM800-8237
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer
DMI Motherboard Product PM800-8237
DMI Motherboard Version
DMI Motherboard Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Manufacturer
DMI Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Asset Tag [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case
DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 3 / 1

by the way where di all of you guys learn how to virtualy build a computer?i know tht obv sum1 must but i was tlkig to my computing teacher and he says that (in my school anyway) that you dont get taught about the computer its self

[quintinius]

and just so you know ive not been on computer for more than 5 mins and everest toolbar thing is saying it's 63 on the cpu temp

[DanceswithUnix]

by the way where di all of you guys learn how to virtualy build a computer?i know tht obv sum1 must but i was tlkig to my computing teacher and he says that (in my school anyway) that you dont get taught about the computer its self

Just plugging a machine together is pretty easy, if you buy a motherboard it comes with a manual that tells you pretty much what you need to know. Read places like this for a while and you soon pick up what parts you want to get, plugging them in is pretty easy.

You learn how to design the actual computer parts by doing a degree in electronic engineering. But in the same way that the people that service cars have no idea how to design one, not many people can design computer parts but plugging one together is not hard. Hell, even the tech guys in PC world normally get it right

There is a lot of experience on this forum though, I reacon a few weeks reading here and you can be overqualified for PC world

[iranu]

If you can build something out of lego using the instructions then you can build a PC.

I've tried to narrow down your motherboard. Is it any of the following,

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/spec/pm800dms.pdf

http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Pro...x?detailid=358

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...ID=580&LanID=9

You should be able to read the name of the board - it runs up the middle just like these examples.