Why is almost every gaming system I see using DDR2 RAM instead of DDR3, is it just about latency??? :confused:
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Why is almost every gaming system I see using DDR2 RAM instead of DDR3, is it just about latency??? :confused:
well for 4gb of quality DDR2 your looking at £70~, DDR3 your looking at like £400 (simple guess but DDR3 is VERY expensive!)
high latencies and a very slim performance margins make DDR2 over DDR3 the better choice!
World record for Super PI 1m is currently held by G. Skill's HZ range based on Micron D9 chips which is 9.8 seconds (according to what I read). Please inform me if this is incorrect.
Crucial ballistix is also the same thing and just as good.
How much ram are you looking for, 2x1 Gb, or 2x2 Gb?
Oh, your not looking for some ram :p
Every gaming system including mine has DDR2 because DDR3 offers virtually no improvement to game performance over my £42 DDR2 sticks.
Thanks for settling that one, I just needed confirmation.
I am a PC self build first timer so I am therefore a bit clueless. I am probably looking to get 4 GB of Crucial DDR2, which of their range would you recommend?
Hasent it been beeten yet my ram box boasts about super pi record, and they have been around for well over a year. :help:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhavv
I'm pretty sure Crucial are yet to release a 2x2GB set of DDR2 for desktops so have a gander at something like 4GB OCZ Platinum.
I dont know if it has, thats why I said correct me if I'm wrong ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by No.72
DDR3 memory gets around 13s in Super PI 1m. It doesnt like high timings.
That looks like the stuff I am looking for. I take it that OCZ has as good a reputation as Crucial for reliability. I am planning to get into some overclocking as well (Intel Q6600) so I am sure I will need reliable hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
Thanks! :)
Yeah-ha, OCZ are very highly regarded. With PC6400 you shouldn't need to overclock the memory anyway (unless you plan on going above 3.6GHz with your Q6600).
If your after 4Gb of RAM the 4GB OCZ ReaperX kit is very good
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Originally Posted by SadikP
That is some of the strangest looking RAM I have seen, major air cooling! :surprised:
Yeah as I am new to overclocking I definitely will not be pushing beyond 3.6GHz on my first self build!Quote:
Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
Can you recommend a good Mobo that will suit the Q6600 and allow a possible upgrade to a second GFX card to permot SLi later?
cheers
This stuff is the best 4 Gb stuff currently available:
4GB G.Skill 1066MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Memory Upgrade Chips 8-layer PCB
The OCZ Reaper X block the adjacent ram slot, which is silly. The G. skills dont.
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I asked overclockers if they were going to stock them and they said they are expecting in 2-3 weeks. If they are below £100 I'll buy them instantly and sell my current ones :p
That link is all messed up when I post it on this forum :(
Thanks for the links, so many possibilities! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhavv
General consensus is that SLi isn't a feasible upgrade path as when the time comes you're better off selling your current card and using the cash towards whatever's new on the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanKiwi
Plus the P35 boards are generally more stable so I'd be looking at:
- Abit IP-35 (Dark Raider) ~ £73.07
- Abit IP-35 Pro ~ £112.44
Keep checking 'Today Only' too as the above keep cropping up with around £20 off. :)
It's certainly the highest rated DDR2 I've seen but it's pretty pointless unless you're running extreme overclocks / willy-waving via benchmarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhavv
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Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
Thanks again!
Could you please take a look at my new post and tell me what you think?
Cheers!
That's what I'd always thought, but isn't the tide starting to turn? AMD certainly seems to be taking crossfire more seriously and their 3870 x2 card seemed to work well (i.e. not so buggy as previous x2 cards) even if not all games scale well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
I've only just built my first computer and didn't even consider multiple Gfx cards, but since then I've started to wonder that maybe next time round things will be different...
I suppose it depends on how long you plan on holding on to a motherboard.
SLi and Crossfire are great if you have the cash to buy both cards at the same time but as an upgrade path...
'Oh yeah I'll just slap in another card in 9 months time to boost my performance.'
... it makes no sense. In 9 months you'd be better off selling your current card and getting a single card that beats the performance of your old card in SLi / Crossfire. Plus two cards = more noise / heat / space.
And the 3870X2 is still a single card solution, it just has two GPUs. :p
What he said :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightshadowUK
i wouldn't bother with SLI unless you want two high end cards right now, and have the cash to splash to manage it.
As for the original memory question, the OCZ 6400 kits at Cas 4, are the best value at the moment. But you can get any 6400 low latency kit depending on which kit is cheapest at the time :)
Thanks, I am going to go with the OCZ 6400 kit for the reason you stated: CL5 (5-4-4-18) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlGrey
Despite what I said the other day (...doh!) it turns out that there is a good SLI solution at the moment, in the shape of the new 9600GT!
GeForce 9600 GT SLI Performance
AnandTech: Bringing Competition to Midrange: The GeForce 9600 GT Raises NVIDIA's Sub $200 Bar
at around £120, getting two of these may be out of your budget for now, but you should consider that these in SLI are cheaper and faster than anything less than two 8800GTs in SLI...
At £240 they whip both a 3870X2 and a 8800Ultra...!