Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    151
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    I've been looking for ages to build a small, low-power, always-on server.

    This would sit in a cupboard with a large amount of storage and my printer and act as a file and print server, bittorrent downloader, and interface for remote access. It'll probably run Windows Home Server, just as soon as they fix the file corruption issue!

    In order to sell this to the other half, it needs to have very low power consumption indeed - we need to be in "But darling... It's only consuming 5w - over a whole year, that's less than your hair straighteners!" territory.

    So, having seen an Atom board here on Hexus, it occurred that this would be ideal!

    Three questions then:

    1) Anyone got any idea when these might be coming to market?
    2) With a couple of gigs of RAM, do you think it'll run WHS okay?
    3) Any viable alternatives? (That's nearly a pun!) How low-power are VIA boards these days?

    Many thanks!

  2. #2
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    10,102
    Thanks
    501
    Thanked
    1,041 times in 885 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 3700X
      • Memory:
      • 16GB 3200MHz
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Linux, 1TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 30 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    The hard drive will take about 5w, so I think you are onto a loser if you are aiming anywhere near that low.

    How much storage do you actually need? I would have thought an old laptop off ebay with a broken screen could be mutated into what you want as long as you don't want a large rack of drives (or don't mind them being USB). Might even come with its own built in UPS that way as well

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    For Via Systems, running a Via C7 Processor, I have usually seen between 25 and 30W, depending on configuration, always using 2,5" Hard disks, no more than 1GB of RAM, and no CD/DVD.

    At home, I run an Intel based platform, using Intel D201DLY2 motherboard, 1GB Kingston DDR2-533 RAM Module, 2.5" Toshiba Hard disk, a MiniBox MiniPSU and a 8cm fan (this was quite a disappointment, as I hoped it would be unnecessary, being a fanles mobo). Using an Outlet power meter, it uses 40W, although It seems that an unappropriate AD/DC used near it's limit is causing some power lose due to thermal dissipation... Measuring the system at the lab, it was about 30W...

    (Sorry but can't post the links for components, due to forums restrictions to new users...)

    As operating system, I use Ubuntu 7.10. It runs ok, though the SIS graphics in the motherboard is quite upsetting... and terrible for video!

    Anyway, It will be pretty hard to attain your 5W objective... is not only the mobo!, but everything you have to plug in it... For the hard disk, after initial spinning, shouldn't be a problem... mobile hard disks are even powered through USB, which is 5V and 500mA (though some of them need aditional help to start...)

    Best Regards!

  4. #4
    Seething Cauldron of Hatred TheAnimus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    17,147
    Thanks
    798
    Thanked
    2,151 times in 1,407 posts

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    remeber the north bridge on the atom boards is going to use more juice than the CPU as long as its still a 945!

    As LocoVecino said your 5W dreams are way out, as even the most expensive SSD will probably sup that much.
    throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)

  5. #5
    radix lecti dave87's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    England
    Posts
    12,806
    Thanks
    657
    Thanked
    931 times in 634 posts
    • dave87's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus
      • CPU:
      • i5 3470k under Corsair H80 WC
      • Memory:
      • 8gb DDR3
      • Storage:
      • 240gb SSD + 120gb SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus HD7950
      • PSU:
      • XFX 600w Modular
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-A05FNB + Acoustipack
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2x Dell S2309W (1920x1080)
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity Option 2

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    Didn't the latest SSD from Samsung use something around 0.9w?

    I think more realistically, you could be looking at the 40-50w range, which despite being relatively high compared with your 5w hope, is still going to mean it uses less electricity than say, cooking your dinner, or boiling the kettle over the course of the day.

    I'm using a Via C7 1.5ghz (or 2, can't honestly remember) with 1gb of RAM and 4 HDDs & an Optical drive. It is a box the same size as a Shuttle, and its been stable continuously for the last 30 days. It is running Win2k3 server atm, and whilst a little sluggish on sustained IDE to SATA transfer, it is a perfect low power media server.

    In your situation, you could run a 2.5" drive for boot, then 2 or 3x 3.5" drives off a RAID card to allow you RAID5 storage. With the price of TB drives, thats going to be relatively easy.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    5 times in 3 posts

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    the Eee box and some atom based netbooks have been shown to idle around 10-12w from the wall...thats as low as your getting with a 2.5" HD in there.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    South East
    Posts
    853
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked
    8 times in 7 posts

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    ISTR Ebox is around 14-17W but yes, very low compared to most PCs.. not quite as low as a NAS box using an ARM CPU but the Ebox has a nice VGA output which the NAS doesnt!

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Any news on Mini-ITX Atom availability?

    I'm in the market for a mini-itx machine and was contemplating going for the Atom platform.

    There's a 60W power supply that would minimize noise, the electric bill. But I was also hoping to cram in a DVD burner, 2-gigs of ram, perhaps a wireless pci-card if there's juice to spare.

    I've seen specs for the power consumption of the various parts, but was unsure of a good rule of thumb for how much of the power supply should be used, for stability's stake?

    To those of you who have built similar machines, is this project feasible with 60W or am I attempting a project that isn't realistic?

    Thanks

    Dave

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Mini ITX
    By Scott in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 23-06-2004, 08:11 AM
  2. Mini ITX pah thats massive
    By Gordy in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 26-09-2003, 07:19 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •