Please Help!New AMD64 build wont boot!

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05-08-2004, 07:34 PM
azrael1

Please Help!New AMD64 build wont boot!

Hello I got my new Asus 939 mb and AMD 3500 cpu today and have lots of problems.

I switch the pc on and power goes into the motherboard but it wont boot / Post / Nothing at all ! Theres no warning message. If I press Power again then it wont switch off ! Ive tried changing ram but no change. I think the CPU might be dead ! Is this possible ? Surely if it was posting ok then pressing power would switch the computer off. I get no display

My spec are as follows

Pc Twinmos 3200 Ram - 2 times 256megs !
Serial ATA Maxtor Hdd
Graphics Card = 9800 ATI !

What should i do ? RMa the mob or the CPU ?

I should be hearing beeps but hear no beeps or messages and ive connected the pc speaker up !

Someone anyone !!
05-08-2004, 07:42 PM
myth

Did you pull evrything but the proc and the mobo?
05-08-2004, 07:46 PM
azrael1

Yep I did same thing just switches on and spinss.

I though asus board u should hear a voice ?
05-08-2004, 07:55 PM
yamangman

Probably either the motherboard or the CPU. You have to hold the power switch down for 4 seconds on some motherboards to turn the power off, try this. I dont think you receive any POST when the CPU is damaged/not detected, so I would RMA that, but the motherboard could be damaged. The RAM and Graphics would result in a POST if they were the problems, if you have setup the system speaker correctly.
05-08-2004, 08:54 PM
azrael1

Thanks for the help guys i found out what it was i feel so stupid.

I had plugged the power in but i hadnt plugged the other cube power supply in. I had never had to use that before for a xp system before.

Im installing windows xp now but it seems to be taking twice as long wonder if i specified the correct serial ATA driver.

Or maybe all 939 installation take so long.
; sigh what a day !
05-08-2004, 08:59 PM
myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael1

Thanks for the help guys i found out what it was i feel so stupid.

I had plugged the power in but i hadnt plugged the other cube power supply in. I had never had to use that before for a xp system before.

Im installing windows xp now but it seems to be taking twice as long wonder if i specified the correct serial ATA driver.

Or maybe all 939 installation take so long.
; sigh what a day !

Windows XP instals in 7 mins for me! :devilish: Could be my raptors!!!
05-08-2004, 09:17 PM
azrael1

Quote:

Originally Posted by myth

Windows XP instals in 7 mins for me! :devilish: Could be my raptors!!!

Hmm looks like ive got another problem my system is extrememly sluggish too almost an hr to install xp and windows reaction time is like a snails ! any idea ? wrong serial drivers ?>

maybe i should be using the promise controller ?
05-08-2004, 09:26 PM
BlueHooHoo

had a similar issue of not booting with almost identical setup, I’d missed the extra power too!

Still cant get the system to find my Seagate 7200 SATA drive, seems to find it in BIOS but then stops booting, cant get to the point of pressing F6 in windows and loading the SATA drivers from a floppy. Have had to use my old IDE HDD instead, which works fine.

Have I plugged it in to the wrong connector on the ASUS (A8V) motherboard? are there jumpers I have to adjust? the BIOS was left at default and the CD-ROM drives were on the primary IDE controller. I only wanted a stand alone drive not a RAID setup. Still confused :shocked2:
05-08-2004, 09:28 PM
azrael1

I think the problem ure having is u need to boot from windows xp cd first do a new install and remember to press F6 to add the drivers.

its seems a bit better now after installing thr windows driver ! ill keep u updated ! is ure pc working yet >
05-08-2004, 09:35 PM
BlueHooHoo

the 3500+ and 939 combo is running brilliantly at the moment with my older IDE drive. Tried using Windows CD then F6 to load SATA drivers from a floppy but something went wrong and it refused to find the HDD any time after the first attempt. after swapping connectors, leads, BIOS etc for 2-3 hours gave up and used my old Hard disk, no problem..... will get the Bugger SATA working eventually I suppose :devilish:

Probably something obvious I've overlooked!!! LOL
05-08-2004, 10:01 PM
myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael1

Hmm looks like ive got another problem my system is extrememly sluggish too almost an hr to install xp and windows reaction time is like a snails ! any idea ? wrong serial drivers ?>

maybe i should be using the promise controller ?

promise.. NOOOOOO!!!!! OMG! NO! :eek:

The Promise uses the PCI BUS! Stick with the intel... How long does it take to boot? 3 - 9 seconds... Or should I not compare mine to yours?
05-08-2004, 10:09 PM
azrael1

Quote:

Originally Posted by myth

promise.. NOOOOOO!!!!! OMG! NO! :eek:

The Promise uses the PCI BUS! Stick with the intel... How long does it take to boot? 3 - 9 seconds... Or should I not compare mine to yours?

You dont want to know heheh !
At the mo just doing all those damn windows update then ill install the soundcard and drivers and see how we go from there fun oh fun !!
05-08-2004, 10:22 PM
myth

Well for a midrange buget pc i think you did well! :p Add a few raptors and you should be fine! ;) I'd love to see some benchmarks later on! I wish to compare my system to see where I stand as far as overall performance.... :)
05-08-2004, 11:03 PM
BUFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by myth

promise.. NOOOOOO!!!!! OMG! NO! :eek:

The Promise uses the PCI BUS! Stick with the intel...

Hope not - its an AMD system he's got.

Well for a midrange buget pc i think you did well!
I wouldn't call a socket 939 3500+ a midrange budget system ;)
05-08-2004, 11:21 PM
myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUFF

Hope not - its an AMD system he's got.

Well for a midrange buget pc i think you did well!
I wouldn't call a socket 939 3500+ a midrange budget system ;)

lol! I didn't mean intel.. I have no Idea why I included intel! :heckle:

And yes I'd call it midrange! He has a great Proc and mobo, however he lacks The ram and storage raids, also the Great graphics! I dont know about the sound card? All in all I'd call it a midrange! I go buy the whole system.. not just the case and componets!

Edit: keep in mind I spent almost 5,000 dollars on mine! 2,500 I consider to be midrange ;)
05-08-2004, 11:26 PM
bouncin

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUFF

Hope not - its an AMD system he's got.

Well for a midrange buget pc i think you did well!
I wouldn't call a socket 939 3500+ a midrange budget system ;)

yeah i have to agree lookin pretty high end to me too
05-08-2004, 11:32 PM
azrael1

I think their is something seriously wrong with the pc the HDD performance is sooo slow adding any files to windows ie updating direct X takes like 5 mins ! its was instaneous before and also extracting a 10 meg zip files takes forever ?

Is it the SATA driver ?
I might go low level format it and try again ! Sigh !
05-08-2004, 11:36 PM
myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael1

I think their is something seriously wrong with the pc the HDD performance is sooo slow adding any files to windows ie updating direct X takes like 5 mins ! its was instaneous before and also extracting a 10 meg zip files takes forever ?

Is it the SATA driver ?
I might go low level format it and try again ! Sigh !

What mode is the drive running in? like UDMA 6 or.....
06-08-2004, 12:35 AM
azrael1

it says 6. Ok heres the twist its only slow when i install windows files such as drivers updates ! etc etc ! Im using a spare xp 2500 pc next to me to benchmark it.

the Amd 64 pc is like 4 - 6 times slower installing windows program then anything else.

I mean like windows sound driver / direct X etc etc.

Now games are a different matter install about the same time and playing games is smooth ! Goddamn i give up !
06-08-2004, 01:32 AM
azrael1

1.30 pm and work tm but must install machine. can't STOPPPPPP

Reinstalling on the promise and it seems 6 times quicker ! sigh dam SATA

Bashes PC around. I think im going delirious ! simply delirious !
06-08-2004, 01:48 AM
myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael1

1.30 pm and work tm but must install machine. can't STOPPPPPP

Reinstalling on the promise and it seems 6 times quicker ! sigh dam SATA

Bashes PC around. I think im going delirious ! simply delirious !

I hate "promise"..... But if it works! ;)
06-08-2004, 08:01 AM
Stoo

Is it a VIA chipset on that board btw?

If so, go download the hyperion 4-in-1 drivers, it should fix the slow drive performance..
06-08-2004, 09:05 AM
azrael1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo

Is it a VIA chipset on that board btw?

If so, go download the hyperion 4-in-1 drivers, it should fix the slow drive performance..

I reinstalled on the Promise Controller and all seems ok ! now windows is it usual zippy self.
sigh !
06-08-2004, 09:37 AM
Stoo

oh well, those promise controllers can be a bit tempramental though..
06-08-2004, 11:10 AM
azrael1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoo

oh well, those promise controllers can be a bit tempramental though..

Really ?
Whats wrong with them ?>?

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