Just bought my first RGB product!

... not that it was in any way part of the reason I bought it, but I guess I couldn't avoid it forever seeing as there is barely a single rock left unturned in the market now.

I've never fully gelled with my G500 in the same way as I did with the G518 that came before it and I felt like it was time for a change. I looked about in the market at Corsair, Razer, Roccat etc... but it had to be logitech still.... so its the G502 Proteus Spectrum for me... what a ridiculous name.
http://gaming.logitech.com/assets/64...ming-mouse.png

So what RGB products have other people got so far?

My CPU cooler is RGB (side note - in the process of doing a build log).

What's the mouse like? I've had a G602 for just under two years, and recently the scroll wheel broke. I had it replaced and the quality is horrendous! It feels like a cheap rip off.

The new mouse's buttons are squishy and wobbly, it creeks... Anyway..

Looking at moving to wired potentially - let me know what it's like :)

Hasnt arrived yet, but Ill definitely have to pay special attention to it!

I have a Func MS-3 R2 which is RGB,but I have not really mucked around with the colours.

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I have a Func MS-3 R2 which is RGB,but I have not really mucked around with the colours.

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I suspect all I'll do is set it to white and leave it at that!

I've just moved my "rig" into a NZXT S340 Elite (full tempered window), and it was a little too dark.

I never thought I'd ever use any lighting (and I still didn't stoop down to RGB levels :)), but I did succumb and put some white led strips in strategic locations and I do quite like the results.

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I suspect all I'll do is set it to white and leave it at that!

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I think I left it on the default colour IIRC.

It seems like there is very little buzz about RGB in Hexus, are we just a community of old computer enthusiasts who arent down with the Kids, or is the industry just in an echo chamber creating its own hype over RGB?

The whole RGB thing still feels like a giant parody to me.

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It seems like there is very little buzz about RGB in Hexus, are we just a community of old computer enthusiasts who arent down with the Kids, or is the industry just in an echo chamber creating its own hype over RGB?

The whole RGB thing still feels like a giant parody to me.

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Well I tend to have always preferred understated looking cases with a minimalist look - I currently use an aluminium mini-ITX case in black which is not at all flashy.

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Ozone Smog Gaming Mouse - that is the only device I have which can change colour :)

I've been down that route before - I have had RGB coloured fans, temperature displaying fans, even memory with rude messages scrolling down it on LED strips and now I have gone down the other route, where the PC is hardly lit up, with only the white LED from power and HDD activity.

As for keyboard - I use a backlit one, in green and the mouse I have can be adjusted to any colour I need, but I tend to use it in green or not lit at all ;)

Technically it was back when the previous lighting craze went around, I had a fan that had seperate red, blue and green LEDs ala Antec's trilight models:
http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=1924&lan=ec

I much preferred the green cold cathode tubes, although by the end of the machine's life they'd faded badly.

In terms of more recent combined RGB products probably just a rapidly defunct logitech G600. It's looking like I might end up with a motherboard with them though, even if I'll probably manage to avoid them on the graphics card.

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It seems like there is very little buzz about RGB in Hexus, are we just a community of old computer enthusiasts who arent down with the Kids, or is the industry just in an echo chamber creating its own hype over RGB?

The whole RGB thing still feels like a giant parody to me.

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I suspect it's just a large proportion of people willing to put up with silly styling and RGB LEDs. If it doesn't impact sales then it's more cost effective to make just one version even if the number of people who actually want that feature is relatively small.

I've got a cooler master masterkeys pro L mechanical keyboard.

I didn't buy it for the RGB, rather, a cheapish way into a compact mechanical keyboard. However, I now have it set to slowly wave through rainbow colours, because I'm a unicorn.

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I've got a cooler master masterkeys pro L mechanical keyboard.

I didn't buy it for the RGB, rather, a cheapish way into a compact mechanical keyboard. However, I now have it set to slowly wave through rainbow colours, because I'm a unicorn.

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:lol: Must make a right racket with hoofs and a mechanical keyboard :)

I recently jumped on the RGB band wagon... purchased the Corsair HD120 RGB 120mm LED 3x Fan Kit with Lighting Controllers. A month after the novelty wore off and decided to replace them with Noctua NF-P14s Redux fans. I've been trying to sell them at a ridiculously low price, no one wants them!!! :clapping:

I have had many RGB products, including my current keyboard(currently on white). I think the pictures etc on products make them look more exciting than they really are.

My keyboard can cycle millions of colours but its so off putting and just looks cheesy.

Interior lighting was ok until I noticed it was showing small particles of dust on the glass panel so OCD took over and I was forever cleaning it. So now have a windowless BeQuiet case and no lighting at all in it and I am far happier :)

What Jon said. I had an rgb keyboard and mouse. Looked like the proverbial epileptic frog.

Changed the keyboard to just a red backlight and turned all the other leds off.

I'm planning on changing everything I can to RGB, but am currently engaged on a different project. I'm putting glowing blue underlighting on my car, adding go-faster stripes and researching the web, via my favourite company, Google, for high-quality colour-changing furry dice.

And if anybody believes that, may I suggest an immediate visit to A&E, to seek an urgent psychiatric consult and a VERY good therapist, because only someone dangerously deluded would have bought into that. ;) :D

The ONLY way I'd go for RGB products is if it's the ONLY way to get a suitable product, and even then, I'd want colours turned off if possible, and if not, set to minimal visibility. Like black.

Don't forget the musical air horns....

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I'm planning on changing everything I can to RGB, but am currently engaged on a different project. I'm putting glowing blue underlighting on my car, adding go-faster stripes and researching the web, via my favourite company, Google, for high-quality colour-changing furry dice.

And if anybody believes that, may I suggest an immediate visit to A&E, to seek an urgent psychiatric consult and a VERY good therapist, because only someone dangerously deluded would have bought into that. ;) :D

The ONLY way I'd go for RGB products is if it's the ONLY way to get a suitable product, and even then, I'd want colours turned off if possible, and if not, set to minimal visibility. Like black.

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RGB does have a time and a place, maybe not for yourself but certainly for me; I've recently started using a Razer Chroma keyboard, which provides an SDK for devs to dip into the lighting of the keyboard and set certain effects in games and software. Overwatch is amazing, adding a genuine level of usability that RGB is brilliant for.

So far im loving the mouse. Taking a while to get it set up the way I like it but it certainly feels more accurate than my old one.

RGB is set to white (which is more blue than anything else, I suspect there isn't a dedicated white LED)... but I have left it on breathing :)

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Don't forget the musical air horns....

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Ah. Erm, um ..... Ahem, didn't. :embarrassed:


To be fair, while they can be musical, I had them set to single blast.

And by 'eck, lad, they were LOUD !!!

I'm sure I generated a sincere brown-trouser moment or two. Fortunately, no heart attacks. That I know of.

Shame - the Cucaracha is a personal fave ;)

I've got a couple of RGB items (mouse and logo on GPU), but in both cases the RGB-ness wasn't a factor in my purchase decision, it just happened to be there. I certainly appreciate having the RGB feature, but if the exact same item was available without lighting for a lower price I'd have had that instead.

The only place I want lights is keyboard backlighting, and preferably in red as it's less damaging to night vision when I'm doing astronomy related things.

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It seems like there is very little buzz about RGB in Hexus, are we just a community of old computer enthusiasts who arent down with the Kids, or is the industry just in an echo chamber creating its own hype over RGB?

The whole RGB thing still feels like a giant parody to me.

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It feels that way because, like many other things, people are using it and marketing it as a gimmick.
To me, RGB is basically a choice of lighting. You choose ONE out of however many colours that suits you, most notably the colour of your backlit keyboard, with the added feature of being able to set clusters like the WASD in a different, more distinct colour or somesuch.

The follow-on is having the choice of different colours for other things, like fans, motherboard accents and the like. What they miss out on is the patterns - My RAM has running lights on, which alter speed and pattern depending on what the RAM is doing. If I had the choice, my components would have different lights for different tempeatures, or something, so I can see what's happening without having to ALT+TAB out of my game into HWMON or have an overlay in-game.

"Gamer styling" is another matter. I agree with the idea of it, but people like MadCatz do have some bizarre ideas on what they think looks "cool". I generally opt for quiet, good taste, which leans toward Corsair and Logitech for the most part.

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It feels that way because, like many other things, people are using it and marketing it as a gimmick.
To me, RGB is basically a choice of lighting. You choose ONE out of however many colours that suits you, most notably the colour of your backlit keyboard, with the added feature of being able to set clusters like the WASD in a different, more distinct colour or somesuch.

The follow-on is having the choice of different colours for other things, like fans, motherboard accents and the like. What they miss out on is the patterns - My RAM has running lights on, which alter speed and pattern depending on what the RAM is doing. If I had the choice, my components .....

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I'd certainly concede that there could be specific circumstances where it's useful. I would certainly concede that some people like it. Just as some like fancy cases, transparent sides, and glowing fans. Some people also like furry dice hanging from their car mirror. Allegedly.

Hoonigan nailed it with

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Exactly.

Personally, I want computer cases as anodyne as possible. I prefer to have them hidden away, if possible, and indeed my main system case is completey out of sight, with a remotely mounted power switch bypassing the case switch. I can get at it if needed, but generally, it's 'invisible'. The keyboard lives in an under-desk tray and slides out to use, and the mouse is plain and unadorned by either lights or fancy shapes.

In other words, I go for utterly utilitarian, and the 'style' that suits me is minimalist to the point of invisibility, and always function over form.

But if other people like backlighting, whether red, blue, rainbow or disco ball .... whatever floats their boat, I don't criticise it, or even have much of an opinion on it, beyond that it's not for me.

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Shame - the Cucaracha is a personal fave ;)

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PM me your address and I'll refit them to a car and surprise you with a rendition one fine, unsuspecting morning, maybe as you walk past on yourway to work. See if the brown trouser effect still works.

:D

Here's a thought - ATX with added air-horns !
Imagine the error messgages...

How many people actually change the colour of their RGB setup once they've initially set it all up? Surely it's easier to just get something in that particular colour if so inclined. Unless that colour is some unpopular shade of yellow.

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I'd certainly concede that there could be specific circumstances where it's useful.

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I kinda had to concede... First time I saw a backlit keyboard, it was some dim red monstrosity and I made considerable fun of it and its owner. Later on, a friend whose opinion I valued showed me his 'gaming station'. He played late at night with just a lamp on rather than the main light, but neither black nor white keyboard was enough and eyestrain resulted. A backlit keyboard was the answer and getting older my own self, I tried one only to find my eyes loving me for it... especially once I'd set it to the green light!

The rest is just like cars - personal decoration, suping up, choices of upholstry, trim level, colours, etc.
While I may have a PC that looks like Knight Rider, I wear dark, plain ties and drive a dull blue Škoda... horses, courses.

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... not that it was in any way part of the reason I bought it, but I guess I couldn't avoid it forever seeing as there is barely a single rock left unturned in the market now.

I've never fully gelled with my G500 in the same way as I did with the G518 that came before it and I felt like it was time for a change. I looked about in the market at Corsair, Razer, Roccat etc... but it had to be logitech still.... so its the G502 Proteus Spectrum for me... what a ridiculous name.

So what RGB products have other people got so far?

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I have the same mouse; didn't even know it did RGB! I must have just left it in its default blue state. Like you, I was looking for a Logitech replacement and this one was rated highly.

The only minor issue I have had with it is occasionally hitting the sensitivity buttons (the 2 next to the LMB). However, it also took me a while to realise it shows the sensitivity level with the 3 lights underneath, so it is easy to reset.

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I have the same mouse; didn't even know it did RGB! I must have just left it in its default blue state. Like you, I was looking for a Logitech replacement and this one was rated highly.

The only minor issue I have had with it is occasionally hitting the sensitivity buttons (the 2 next to the LMB). However, it also took me a while to realise it shows the sensitivity level with the 3 lights underneath, so it is easy to reset.

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Id recomend looking into the software. Once you set it up to work off software profiles you can have per game sensitivity and hot keys which is super handy.

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I kinda had to concede... First time I saw a backlit keyboard, it was some dim red monstrosity and I made considerable fun of it and its owner. Later on, a friend whose opinion I valued showed me his 'gaming station'. He played late at night with just a lamp on rather than the main light, but neither black nor white keyboard was enough and eyestrain resulted. A backlit keyboard was the answer and getting older my own self, I tried one only to find my eyes loving me for it... especially once I'd set it to the green light!

The rest is just like cars - personal decoration, suping up, choices of upholstry, trim level, colours, etc.
While I may have a PC that looks like Knight Rider, I wear dark, plain ties and drive a dull blue Škoda... horses, courses.

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I take the point about gaming with subdued lighting and IF backlit kb/mouse works well ... fair enough. I did think about that when typing my last answer. But it reinforces, for me why I don't like the glows. Because of some eye problems, and several lots of eye surgery, my eyes are especially sensitive to either too much contrast, or not enough. I couldn't game at all in the way you describe, because the glare from a screen, in the absence of modest ambient light, would have my eyes streaming and give me a screaming headache, in a matter of minutes. I need background lighting to be not too high, or I get a headache, but not too low or, yep, you guessed, I get a headache.

From an aesthetic point of view, I just don't like the bright, glowing effect, but even without that, from a medical point of view, for me, it hurts rather than helping.

Even for keyboards I have zero interest in lighting. I can find home row blindfolded and type accordingly. As you alluded to earlier, Saracen, I regard glass/windowed panels and RGB to be the PCMR version of go-faster stripes, I'd much rather put that money under the hood. But each to his/her own.

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As you alluded to earlier, Saracen, I regard glass/windowed panels and RGB to be the PCMR version of go-faster stripes, I'd much rather put that money under the hood. But each to his/her own.

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I think these days, if you're looking at the more expensive end of the market, its almost impossible to avoid RGB. Everything seems to come with adapters to connect all the RGB stuff together so it can be synched... its all quite... gaudy?!
I dunno, I dont like it, but its there, and there is nothing I can do about it really.

Saying that my PC case does have big windows on it and I LOVE it

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I need background lighting to be not too high, or I get a headache, but not too low or, yep, you guessed, I get a headache.

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Oh, likewise. I had to drop the brightness on my Iiyama to about 5%, as it was too bright. Same with the RGB peripherals and everything... but that's again the point - RGB is about giving people options, even if that means disabling them all.
I think of it more like a car dashboard, but where my Octavia instruments are all green, you may prefer the red & blue of a Golf.

While I don't need massive amounts of light, I do find my room limiting in terms of placing lights to avoid shadows. That's where the backlit keys come in.

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Everything seems to come with adapters to connect all the RGB stuff together so it can be synched... its all quite... gaudy?!

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If done badly, yes.
But again, you don't have to use it, either.

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How many people actually change the colour of their RGB setup once they've initially set it all up? Surely it's easier to just get something in that particular colour if so inclined. Unless that colour is some unpopular shade of yellow.

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It's cheaper to offer one RGB SKU than a million different colours - even if you save a few pennies by only having the LED's you use, there's the extra costs of having to produce and hold stock of every possible shade. With RGB, one box on the shelf can be exactly what the person buying it wants

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Oh, likewise. I had to drop the brightness on my Iiyama to about 5%, as it was too bright. Same with the RGB peripherals and everything... but that's again the point - RGB is about giving people options, even if that means disabling them all.
I think of it more like a car dashboard, but where my Octavia instruments are all green, you may prefer the red & blue of a Golf.

While I don't need massive amounts of light, I do find my room limiting in terms of placing lights to avoid shadows. That's where the backlit keys come in.

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Hmmm. Good points there on, first, disabling, and second, car dashboards.

Perhaps I should amend my comment to a slightly more accurate stance :-

- I wouldn't buy product A over an otherwise identical product B just because A is RGB
- I value RGB capability at £0 in a buying decision. Having that option would not interest me at all, and £0 is what I'd pay extra for it.
- Having RGB would be a negative unless I can disable it, in every PC-related scenario I have yet thought off.
- It would very possibly be a big enough negative to get to be buy an otherwise comparable alternate, unless I could disable it.


As for car dashboards, point taken BUT .... I maintain it's a different scenario.

By definition, many of us drive cars (and bikes, vans, lorries, etc) at night, where ambient natural lighting is minimzl or zero. You have to be able to see at least some dash controls and readouts for safety reasons, and because the outside is dark, overall interior lighrs aren't a good idea.

Therefore, illuminated controls are a necessary, perhaps even life-saving feature.

Given that, I plead guilty to having bought car stereos with switchable lighting because I didn't want a glaring colour clash.

I even, about 20cyears ago, had a knock-down argument with my insurance company after some thieving toerag nicked the (high-end) stereo from my M3.The insurance company wanted to replace the stolen unit with what they SAID was a direct repacement.

I pointed out that the stolen unit had user-selectable illumination, including a close match to the orangy-red of by car. The "direct replacement" was electric blue ONLY. As I had bought the original because, of suitably high-end units it was the best colour match, NO WAY ON EARTH were they putting a blue-only unit in as a like-for-like replacement.

After, well, let's call it a polite form of eye-gouging grudge match of letter exchanges, I told them to :-

a) find an accrptably high-end unit witha colour match, or
b) provide me with a cash equivalent so that I could, or
c) I was going to install my choice of altetnative in the event of no mutually acceptably agreed option with 14 days, and then see them in small claims court over the cost.

They agreed to my suggested alternative. ;)

So yeah, in THAT environment, colour match mattered to me. But, I had no alternative but to have dash illumination, and BMW provided no user-selectable colours .... or I'd have picked a blue or green, not orangy-red.

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Whilst the dashboard illumination itself is indeed a necessity, it's again about having the option of colour - Same as you have those ISOFIX things for the option of installing a child seat, or heated seats, air-con, sat-nav, or all the other 'optional' extras, many of which now come as standard. In fact, one of my elder friends was quite upset that roll-down windows aren't available on cars any more!

One of the jobs I've done a good number of times is changing dash light colours for people who "adore everything about this car, except the horrid" red/green/orange/blue/whatever dash illumination... If people could, at the flick of a switch, set their illumination up the way we can on PCs, they'd sell those cars like hot cakes!

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One of the jobs I've done a good number of times is changing dash light colours for people who "adore everything about this car, except the horrid" red/green/orange/blue/whatever dash illumination... If people could, at the flick of a switch, set their illumination up the way we can on PCs, they'd sell those cars like hot cakes!

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It takes all sorts.

Personally, IF my car had that ability, I'd use it, but it would be a very long way indeed down the list of factors I evaluate to decide whether to buy this car or that.

An interesting (to me, at least) question is .... how much extra would I pay to have that option on the car I picked?

That is to say, suppose I decided on a new M4. Two otherwise identical models are available, one with the orangy-red dash colour I don't much like, and the other with a fully user-selectable dash colour of an RGB type.

If the cost was trivial, I'd buy the selectable one. But if the price was nominally increased, at what point would I settle for orangy-red despite not much liking it?

Dunno. It'll take some thought.

But my initial feeling is :-

£5 - get the colour-changer.
£1000 - oh, hell no. Orangy-red it is.
£100? Getting tricky. But probably not.
£50? Very possibly.

And bear in mind, that's deciding whether to select a £50 or £100 option on a purchase already costing about £50k. I would, and have, spent thousands on leather interior, and even changing the wheel design, and several thousand more on sound and security systems.

But £100 to change dash colour? Doubtful.

It certainly would have VERY small impact on whether I bought the car or not.

But as we've already agreed, whatever floats our individual boats. I'm sure there are many that regard a grand just to have adifferent alloy wheel dedign as ridiculous.

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Actually swapped another someone's dash LEDs for them just last night. Their original MR2 dash was too orange and they wanted red...

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How much does it add to the price of a mouse, do you think?

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But as we've already agreed, whatever floats our individual boats. I'm sure there are many that regard a grand just to have adifferent alloy wheel dedign as ridiculous.

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I have been around the Custom/Cruiser motorcycle scene for many a year and seen how much people spend on very tiny mods that make absolutely no difference to the vehicle performance and only affect the appearance of the thing once the owner actually points out this massively expensive cosmetic add-on.
Same for mobile phones and all the different cases (including design-your-own), although I have less of an umbilical attachment to mine than most, it seems.

I see all this RGB and case window stuff the same way, really. While I may or may not personally like or agree with any given end results, I do appreciate and will 'Devil's Advocately' defend peoples' need and importance to have options in how their stuff looks... and things like RGB, swappable thumb rests, interchangable keycaps and so on are far easier solutions than leaving it to the end user and their questionable Dremelling skills!!

I feel a strong lack of that same appreciation among the Hexite crowd, though... :)

I was never too into the RGB products. I have an RGB keyboard but usually just have on a solid colour which changes every few weeks if I get bored. I did fall for a sale on the NZXT Hue+ kit which I have installed in my PC and I've got to admit I quite like the colours chasing after each other :surprised: , hopefully wont lead to a full RGB addiction