overclocking Athlon 64 3000+

[hardhousehead]

Hey,

I was just wondering, is it better to overclock a 3000+ cpu or pay extra and get a 3200+?
If I should overclock the 3000+, how much can I overclock without there being any problems?

Thanks

[chriswood_7]

I have had my winny 3000+ upto 2.1GHz with an AGP lock on I get about an extra 1500 marks in 3dMARK2001

Its worth going for the fastest you can afford but it would probably only be worth your while going for a 3500+ over a 3000+, than a 3200+...

2.1GHz is faster than a 3200+ though and you can get them right up to 2.5GHz with Watercoolin and a good PSU

Chris

[da_ging]

the 3200 is a better choice for overclocking as it has a higher multi (10) and so you dont need as high an fsb to get a decent overclock as you do with the 3000

[chriswood_7]

yeah but the cost/performance ratio is much better with the 3000+. Personally id rather either go 3000+ and OC it, or step right up speed wise and go 3500+

Either one is bloody fast and you wont be disappointed!

Chris

[hardhousehead]

ok thanks
il prob go for the 3000+ cause of budget reasons.
The mobo thats with the pc is a ASUS K8V Deluxe which I was told is not too good for overclockin.

[shiato storm]

get the 3000+ and overclock it, be sure to have decent cooling though

[naturbo2000]

Go for a 3000, but make sure you get a good motherboard/RAM.

I'm on a 2800 S754 and can get to 2.25GHz (from 1.8) without working locks (rev1.0 KV8Pro). Not possible to go over 42MHz PCI/84MHz AGP!

As long as you can pump up base clock and adjust memory speeds as needed then the 9x multiplier won't matter. Some boards have "issues" around 270 base clock, but that's 2.4GHz anyway. DFI ought to be good for more.

[Butcher]

Got my 3200+ up to 2600 (260x10), don't think it'll go further, the board is good to 275 at least.

[SilentDeath]

Im getting a 3000+. Multi doesnt matter.. as with AMD64's its not essential ro run mem in sync.. just change the ratio.. much cheaper and just as good..

Also getting the DFI nf4 ultra.. which I think will be the better of the nf4 boards.. by a long way
Aiming for 2.8ghz (watercooled). Less than 2.65 andthe chipmight be finding its way back..

[YorkieBen]

Ive read that with the A64 its a good idea to keep the timing on the memory as tight as possible. Therefore would it be better for example to keep the fsb on an Athlon at say 230 to keep tight timings or losen the timings to get 250 fsb?

thanks

[Butcher]

Not a lot in it either way yorkie. A few percent at best.

silent: You might be sending back a lot of chips then, most 3000+ chips don't seem to like going much above 2500 without sub-zero. My 3200+ at 2600 is with 1.75V and watercooling. I can get the chip to ~2750, but it's not stable.

[Mblaster]

Im getting a 3000+. Multi doesnt matter.. as with AMD64's its not essential ro run mem in sync.. just change the ratio.. much cheaper and just as good..

I think the point of the higher multi was to allow for higher CPU speeds without the motherboard being the limiting factor.

e.g. If you motherboard does up to 275fsb and you have a 3000+ then you will get the max CPU speed of 2475MHz (275*9), whereas on a 3200+ with a higher multiplier you would be able to get a max of 2750MHz (275*10).

[SilentDeath]

Not a lot in it either way yorkie. A few percent at best.

silent: You might be sending back a lot of chips then, most 3000+ chips don't seem to like going much above 2500 without sub-zero. My 3200+ at 2600 is with 1.75V and watercooling. I can get the chip to ~2750, but it's not stable.

And have you worked out why its not stable? heat/voltage/general pcb design?
Did you chose stepping? and whic do you have? I think Ive got a good idea which will o/c well.. and I know where will let you chose

Mblaster - VERY good point. Didnt really think of that. I will be getting the DFI board and w/c the nb, so Im not expectingmobo to be the limiting factor.... These boards iirc often hit past 300 when not in sync with ram... *i hope*

Anyway plenty more I need to find out before buying my chip.. like if the new weeks (51+) are any good

[pudds]

Id go for 3000+ if you have good ram. Mine does 2700mhz stable.

[noveltylamp]

I think the consensus is for you to buy a 3000. I doubt on average that there's any difference in overclocking potential between the two processors, it comes down more can your motherboard and ram take the higher FSB/HTT speeds? The advantage to a 3200 is you're guaranteed that speed.

I also say get a 3000 and spend the money you save on a quality mobo and memory.

On the P4 side of things I had a 1.6 that couldnt do more than 1.6 which was a major disappointment.