New system and how much for current system?

[Saracen999]

FWIW, we've just had some 12th gen Intel stuff arrive at work with Windows 11 on, rolled back to Windows 10 and things work well enough.
I know there's the whole thing about thread director or whatever its called sorting out what workloads are meant to go to which cores etc but IME its not a huge issue, especially if you cant use Windows 11 for whatever reason (Kenwood programming software doesn't like Windows 11 in my case)

I'm only going by reviews, and some previous comments here, but as I understand the W11 problem, it isn't that latr (12th & 13th Gen) Intel chips won't work under W10, but rather that W10 doesn't have the Scheduler that W11 does, and without that, the balance between P-cores and E-cores isn't right, which means you can end up getting well sub-par performance, especially if somethig that should be getting P-core ends up ambling along on an E-core. Etc.

Obviously, from a business perspective, there might be reasons for going Intel, and there most definitely might be reasons for staying with W10 not W11, not least, consistency across the organisation or not mixing and matching different OSs, giving support a headache and possibly custom software conniption fits. Been there, done that. Had that argument in forums, probably including here, as to why at least, in that situation, moving from W7 to W8 wasn't a good idea, and even XP had a big role. I even knew a couple of guys making very impressive consulting fees because they were experienced COBOL programmers. I trained on COBOL (and Algol, etc) umpty-ump decades ago and it was old hat then, as I also did C and C++ etc (yeah, that's long in the tooth now too) but these COBOL guys had clients with BIIIIIIGGGGG systems, like banks and insurance companies, that had core software written in the 60s and 70s, and whose original coders had not only retired but very pssibly died. It was the size, importantance and pervasive nature of those ancient but core programs that, for a long time, restrained not only software but hardware choices.

But while that can sure hold true for business users with those kinds of factors to bear in mind, I feel it's much less so for home users. My opinion there would be .... wanna go late-Gen Intel, go Win11. If you don't (as I don't) want to go Win11, best at least look long and hard at AMD CPUs. Yeah, going with W10 on Intel 12th and 13th G will work, in the sense of not falling over, but not (as I understand it) in terms of getting anything like what the CPU should be capable of out of them, which for home users, begs the question ... why do that?

[neonplanet40]

Lots to take in folks. I'm still deciding between upgrading and rebuilding. To complete things, if I do sell my current rig, how much could I expect to price it at? That could help offset the cost of a new build.

I will look at some more reviews and things. I'm not going to buy it tomorrow, I take my time more these days

[Saracen999]

Re: upgradsing v buying new, pro's and con's both ways if you ask me. As someone said earlier, probably worth more selling bits than as a unit but, that assumes you can sell most/all the bits. New also means new warranties, etc. I guess it comes down to costs, both ways, and a big part of that if if you go the selling bits route, what parts you can retain.

[neonplanet40]

So, I've managed to get an msi 4070ti for £630 sold by amazon.

Just need to find a good priced 5800x3d and I should be good.

[badass]

So, I've managed to get an msi 4070ti for £630 sold by amazon.

Just need to find a good priced 5800x3d and I should be good.

Wow that's cheap!

[neonplanet40]

Yea, I thought it was a misprice. But it's due to be delivered on Tuesday... so fingers crossed!

[neonplanet40]

So..... GPU did arrive yesterday. I would have liked a GPU with more VRAM. But really think given the market that £630 (with a free Diablo IV key which I will sell) for a 4070TI MSI TRIO Gaming was very good value. And a massive step up from my 1070.

I also got a 5800x3d, Enermax Supernova G6 850w, Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 argb, WD Black 1TB SN770, Lian Li Lancool 3 argb (Black )

So overall, a good upgrade I think that should hopefully last for some time.

I toyed with AM5 therefore needing new mobo and ram, but didn't think it was worth it.

[MrJim]

So..... GPU did arrive yesterday. I would have liked a GPU with more VRAM. But really think given the market that £630 (with a free Diablo IV key which I will sell) for a 4070TI MSI TRIO Gaming was very good value. And a massive step up from my 1070.

I also got a 5800x3d, Enermax Supernova G6 850w, Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 argb, WD Black 1TB SN770, Lian Li Lancool 3 argb (Black )

So overall, a good upgrade I think that should hopefully last for some time.

I toyed with AM5 therefore needing new mobo and ram, but didn't think it was worth it.

Sounds like the basis of a great system Do keep us updated as to how it performs once you put it all together!