New fast rig - Tell me what you think

[t_aitch]

I went down the samsung route for a new HD over the IBMs, good choice in my opinion, after owning an IBM before. I found the deskstar to be really loud.

[dgr]

If you are taking overclocking into account then you can say the same about a Venice 3000+ which is £80 & the mobo will be a lot cheaper than for the Pentium M.

I'm not familiar with overclocking 3000s so you may well be right. Thuogh I doubt temps, ease of oc and stability would be as good.

[Daneel]

That looks pretty good, I just got a NEC 3540A to replace my Pioneer 108, mainly due to much faster DAE. I'm quite pleased with it.

[Daneel]

I went down the samsung route for a new HD over the IBMs, good choice in my opinion, after owning an IBM before. I found the deskstar to be really loud.

I've got 3 of the newer Hitchi's in my PC, they are reasonably quiet. The noisy one was a Maxtor, a high pitched whine, I got rid of it sharpish.

[BUFF]

Thuogh I doubt temps, ease of oc and stability would be as good.

You might be surprised then ...

[Smokey21]

you would have had a faster (and much much cheaper) setup if you'd gone down the Pentium-m route.

Oh well...

Yeah, great. You'd then be stuck in AGP. Get over Dothan, it's not a viable mainstream option.

[dgr]

Kinda doubt it: looking on this page:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1.../index.x?pg=17

the power consumption of the P-M is much much less than even a stock 3200, let alone the 3800+. My vcore is under 1.3v at all times, which is a lot less than even my aging Athlon XP system.

So unless power consumption (and thus noise) is quite far down on your list, IMO a P-M system would be favourable to (though perhaps more expensive) a Athlon 64 system.

Curiousity - have you clocked either of your AMD64 systems?

[kempez]

The AMD 64's are great processors and from the perspective of a gamer: much better supported than the P4-M.

A 3000+ can easily get to 2.6GHz and they have been known to get to 2.7-8GHz.

My A64 3200+ gets me to 2.9GHz

AMD64 + NF4 is the way to go IMO

[BUFF]

Curiousity - have you clocked either of your AMD64 systems?

All of them.
My 3200+ Venice does 2.6GHz at stock 1.4V with a 1200rpm fan on the XP-120 & a passive chipset cooler so it's hardly noisy

If I run Cool'n'Quiet it will vary clockspeed & vcore according to demand.
Reported temps are usually~30C idle & 40C load (although I take those with a grain of salt as I've seen how easily a mfr can change those with a BIOS edit).
I don't disagree about the P M's power usage but you can have an equally quiet, more powerful & cheaper to buy system with AMD64.

[t_aitch]

That looks pretty good, I just got a NEC 3540A to replace my Pioneer 108, mainly due to much faster DAE. I'm quite pleased with it.

Ive got a 3540 on the way now, after sending my 3500 back to svp for the 2ndd time.