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    Flaming Cliffs Information

    I thought I'd start a thread containing information regarding the addon - known as Flaming Cliffs and Hot Rocks - although admittedly this forum is dominated by IL-2

    There are some advanced previews at SimHQ, these are a list of links for their previews so far:

    http://www.simhq.com/_air3/air_087a.html

    http://www.simhq.com/_air3/air_089a.html

    The official site is at http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?lang=en

    Currently the only way to purchase is online through direct download upon release in the West, but there may be a publisher yet.

    The addon includes a highly advanced model of the SU-25T and major reworks of the Russian aircraft. The developers are considering however major changes for the F-15 in the next addon, currently untitled but will include a flyable KA-50 Hokum, which should be ace

    There is a whole new dynamic, flight model, physics and damage model for the SU-25 and the new SU-25T ala IL-2. The other aircraft will just have tweaked flight models.

    There are 3 additional texture sets representing the entire terrain for the 4 seasons.

    Here is an overview of current additions and chnages, not to mention over 400 bugs which the devs have fixed so far:

    -There are 3 BVR search radar modes now, Encounter, Pursuit, and Auto...

    -For head on enagagements Encounter mode(Hi PRF) will provide the best range and for tail on chase, pursuit(Medium PRF) will provide the best range. Auto(Interleaved PRF) is a combination of both but the acquisition range is reduced.

    If you are tail on to a bandit and in encounter mode you will not see it with the radar until very close range so you have to switch to either pursuit or auto. If you are head on in pursuit mode you will not see it until it is much closer then with auto or encounter modes.

    -TWS-SNP, there is now the SNP mode including automatic threat prioritisation and lock-on.

    -Radar azimuth is now 3 zones only, left, center, and right.

    -There is a radar elevation zone indication on the HUD.

    -There is radar azimuth zone indication on the HUD

    -You can set the radar range on the HUD.

    -When a target is locked there is a radar beam position indication on the HUD.

    -The larger the target, the larger the track symbol on the HUD.

    -There is now auto lock On in CAC Vertical(radar and EOS) and FIO(Longitudinal Missile Aiming - IR seekers only)

    -ECM jamming is now indicated on the HUD and HOJ lock on is possible with the R-27 and R-77.

    -You can now change the size of the gun funnel depending on the size of target you want to hit.

    -As seen in the screenshots, the weapon stations are now displayed on the HUD too.

    -IR missiles now emit a tone when they are locked on.

    -You can now increase and decrease the volume of the RWR and SPO warning tones.

    The Mig-29 HUD symbology includes a pitch scale on the right side of the HUD.

    NAV avionics are basically unchanged except the enroute NAV mode sensitivity was greatly reduced so tracking a course is much easier then in v1.02.

    ILS guidance indictaion is changed to 2 circles that must be inside each other to be on the glideslope and localizer.

    All new autopilot modes:

    - autopilot override
    - roll and pitch stabilization
    - altitude and roll stabilization
    - transition in horizontal flight (panic button)
    - altitude stabilization
    - radio-altimeter terrain following
    - reset all autopilot modes

    -All new improved HUD fonts for all aircraft which are much sharper and easier to read.

    -New improved sound for the A-10A and the F-15C cannons .

    -All new and higher resolution A-10A aircraft textures.

    -Airframe shake for all aircraft when cannon is fired.

    -Improved view of the wings when looking back at 4 and 8 o'clock in the F-15C, Su-27/33, and Mig-29A/S.

    -Many new weapon 3D models and textures.

    -Navigation lights that can be on steady or flash(Su-25T)

    -Improved cockpit ejection model with the pilot, seat, and chute remaining visible after reaching the ground.

    Highlights of the Su-25 and Su-25T Advanced Flight Model(AFM) and physics

    -Dynamic flight and physics model that reacts to weight, center of gravity position, and moments of inertia in real time with no scripting.

    - Assymetric wing loading dynamics... for example... weapons hanging on pylons have weight and drag and when a weapon(A2G missile for example) is fired from one wing only the loss of weight and drag affect how the aircraft reacts. For example, the lighter wing will rise and cause it to accelerate, the heavier wing will drop and deccelrate, which will in turn create yaw.

    -Flight tested by a Russian Su-25 pilot.

    -Fully dynamic aircraft damage modeling including tires that will blow and separate.

    -Ability to land on all terrain surfaces on wheels and on aircraft belly.

    These are just highlights but, IMO, this is the most advanced flight model yet for a PC Simulation title.

    -Air to ground capability for the Su-27... dumb bombs, KMGU dispensors, and rockets.

    -Multiplayer will now show text on the screen of battle action in terms of kills, ejections, crashes, and landings. For example: "Shepski(Su-27) kill SwingKid(F-15C) with R-27R"

    -Ability to have avi's play immediately prior to mission start so all missions can now have user made movies integrated into them.

    Highlights of the Su-25T combat avionics suite

    *The Shkval Optical Targeting System*
    -High resolution optical image with zoom levels of 5X and 23X.
    -Adjustable target designation box from 5 to 60 meters with auto lock on capability of large buildings to airborne helicopters.
    -Camera elevation and azimuth scales.
    -Aircraft attitude indicator.
    -Aircraft pitch and altitude indications(including radar altitude when appropriate).
    -Slant range indication to the target designation box.
    -Timer, in seconds, to target impact for guided rockets and missiles.
    -The Prichal laser rangefinder and designator requires a cooling cycle prior to operation in the ratio of 0.8 to 1 * the time it was previously activated.
    -The cooling cycle can be over ridden if necessary but will decrease the life of the laser.
    -The Shkval and Prichal laser is used in combination with the Vikhr guided rocket system as a very effective anti-armour weapon system.

    *Mercury LLTV(Low Light TV) Pod*
    -Centerline mounted light amplification optical targeting pod.
    -Uses all the features of the Shkval but limited to a 5X zoom only.

    *L-081 Phantasmagoria ETS Anti-Radar System*
    -Via a centerline mounted pod, this system is capable of identifying, displaying, and engaging surface to air threat radars.
    -The threat radar location and classification is displayed on the HUD for targeting with fire and forget KH-25MP and KH-58 anti-radar missiles.
    -The L-081 can classify and display multiple threat radars at one time.

    *SPPU-22 Gun Pod*
    -This external twin 23mm cannon pod can be used in combination with the Shkval system and Prichal laser for precision cannon attacks.
    -The SPPU-22 twin barrels are depresible to an elevation of -30 degrees.
    -Up to 4 SPPU-22 gunpods can be carried and they can be fired in pairs, all 4 together, or all 4 gun pods combined with the GSH-2-30 cannon on the Su-25T for maximum damage.

    That little lot has to be worth a purchase


    Edit:

    Just for people who don't and may want to know here are a few (much simplified) explanations of some of the more cryptic terminology

    BVR - Beyond Visual Range.

    TWS - Track While Scan, a method of aquiring a target for a radar guided missile launch whilst still being able to track other contacts.

    SNP - Russian for Track While Flyby, Alows the radar to track other threats with target prioritisation, but unable to scan for new targets after the mode has been engaged.

    CAC - Close Air Combat submode, provides a pencil beam of radar energy to lock targets in close combat situations..

    EOS - Electro Optical System, a passive optical device used to aquire targets and engage them with passive IR missiles.

    FIO - Longitudinal Missile Aiming, another CAC submode that provides a vertical beam of radar energy allowing a greater deal of vertical flexibility in locking targets for high off-boresite engagements.

    HOJ - Home On Jam, a method of lock which tracks ECM signal source. It provides no target acquisition data.

    RWR - Radar Warning Receiver.

    SPO - Russian RWR.

    PRF - Pulse Repetition Frequency, of the radar, self explanatory.
    Last edited by yamangman; 13-12-2004 at 02:13 PM. Reason: Acronyms
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    • Lowe's system
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    Sounds good - how much moola is it going to be roughly?

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    Just watched those vids of it. Blummin heck, you can powerslide it on landing
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    Ditto, when and how much? The videos look stunning.
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    November

    That is what it says on the homepage. Very very soon I should imagine, late Dec/early Jan. The price hasn't been released but bearing in mind the price of the original, not much. I would happily pay the 'standard' price for new games for it, it'll probably be <= £30.
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    Me rubs hand thinking of a proper birthday present - NO MORE SOCKS!

    Just one concern is the issue of downloading it, i.e how big of a download are we talking about here? Although I'd much rather have an "official" CD rather than backing up the download to CD.

    (Me now goes looking for more details...)
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    Download is 'on' one CD. The current retail (that isn't being released 'round our way) comes on two, containing the original and addon apparantly.
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    New private area of the http://www.lockon.ru site is open. Go to the home page and hit register.
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    Cheers, registered.
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    Another preview with some nice screenshots here:

    http://www.lockonskins.co.uk/?page=previews/1.1/page1
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    Plus Livin' Doll, Summer Holiday, and Wired For Sound, all on one CD for the first time !

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    Preview of the new Russian HUD modes and new type of BVR combat here in Spanish

    http://www.alasrojas.com/lomac/preview11mig/
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    i demand a flyable Eurofighter / Tornado

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    Tricky, one has classified and difficult to find flight, avionics and weapons information, and the other is two-seater.
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    im sure with enough googling you could find plenty of information on the eurofighter, as its now in commision. Didnt realise that LO:MAC was only single seater aircraft

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    Some good news...

    ED have a released the new, improved Lock On v1.1 manual, for download at a staggering 12.04 MB, an informative two hundred and sixty one pages - dont you just love flight sims? Link here: (you need to register).

    http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?end_p...oducts&lang=en

    Furthermore, it appears a Lock On v1.1 demo will be released very shortly, link here for description and features:

    http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?end_p...oducts&lang=en
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    Ok

    I want this.

    Now.

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