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    Probs with PC considering new system

    So ive mostly been gaming on xbox one x these days but i play games with friends like final fantasy 14 and blood bowl online and ive been experiencing a lot of blue screens with errors suggesting my CPU is dying and my gpu fan on my graphics card been causing me problems. MY PC is Scan G35i Overclocked System i bought back in july 2014 and ive largely been very happy with it till recently.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz . 8 gig ram and has been fine so far. So i was wondering is it worth paying to replace the cpu or should i just buy something cheap from scan again like Scan gamer system they got for £467.29 seems cheap and good but im terrible with hardware and was told before that integrated graphics are very bad. Is this the case where this is actually good enough for another 5 years or so?
    OR can someone recommend something better in the same price range?
    The PC im looking at specs are :
    AMD Ryzen 3 3200G Quad Core
    ASUS PRIME A320M-K, AMD A320 Chipset
    8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz
    AMD Radeon RX VEGA 8 Integrated Graphics
    1TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    Microsoft Windows 10 64bit & 2 Year Return to Base Warranty

    OR should i spend 160 pound more for

    Intel Core i3 9100F Quad Core
    ASUS TUF H310M-PLUS GAMING, Intel H310 Chipset
    8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 2400MHz
    4GB EVGA GTX 1650 BLACK EDITION
    1TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    Microsoft Windows 10 64bit & 2 Year Return to Base Warranty
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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    I have to say the base spec for your existing PC is still good. You'd only need to upgrade GPU, SSD & RAM maybe a AIO.
    But if you're not a hardware person then the intel with a 1650 would be good.
    Or if customisation is available on the Ryzen system, add the 1650 to that, increase your RAM to 16GB & maybe include an SSD if budget & spec allows.


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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Quote Originally Posted by AGTDenton View Post
    I have to say the base spec for your existing PC is still good. You'd only need to upgrade GPU, SSD & RAM maybe a AIO.
    But if you're not a hardware person then the intel with a 1650 would be good.
    Or if customisation is available on the Ryzen system, add the 1650 to that, increase your RAM to 16GB & maybe include an SSD if budget & spec allows.
    Thanks.
    "GPU, SSD & RAM maybe a AIO. " Would be just as much if not more as the new pc and its the CPU thats failing not the gpu from what i can tell .
    is the base system better than for the first system? because it would cost just as much as the 2nd one with the 1650. I feel like extra ram and ssd would be excessive when im trying to minimize the spend.

    P.S: normally id try fiddling with it as SCAn does very clean builds i did with GPU which i took out and took the part of the case of so the fan stopped beating on the case but the cpu is completely covered by the enormous heatsink and I wouldn't have a clue where to start taking it out. Im going to see maybe if i can get it repaired first.
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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    I'd go with the intel then, I now see these are part of the Scan prebuilds that can't be customised during purchase
    A 770 to integrated is risky, if you really arent going to play modern games then you might get away with the cheaper system.
    But you get a lot more scope with a dedicated card, and it comes with an SSD + HDD which I like.


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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Quote Originally Posted by AGTDenton View Post
    I'd go with the intel then, I now see these are part of the Scan prebuilds that can't be customised during purchase
    A 770 to integrated is risky, if you really arent going to play modern games then you might get away with the cheaper system.
    But you get a lot more scope with a dedicated card, and it comes with an SSD + HDD which I like.
    Intel doesnt come with SSD but you can add one cheaply i guess.

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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Have you checked if the inside of the old PC is too dusty like around the processor heatsink? I would also try reinstalling windows after a backup (be sure to have a backup strategy, in practice making good use of an external drive bigger than your OS SSD is very much recommended and regular backup...) and check if you still get the blue screens. The CPU is unlikely to be failing unless it got VERY hot which would be strange.

    Are you planning to buy new games for any new computer you buy? Like, for the next 3 years or something?

    Also Skaramush, check out this link for someone who is putting together their £740 system themselves.
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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Quote Originally Posted by Skaramush View Post
    Intel doesnt come with SSD but you can add one cheaply i guess.
    Ah maybe I didnt find quite the same model you did.
    This was the one I found:
    Scan Gamer, Intel Core i3 9100F "Coffee Lake", 8GB DDR4, 4GB EVGA GTX 1650, 240GB, 1TB, Win 10 @ £649.99
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    I would agree with Millennium the CPU is unlikely to be faulty.
    Hardware Monitor is quite good for monitoring temps across the board.
    https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html


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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Quote Originally Posted by AGTDenton View Post
    I would agree with Millennium the CPU is unlikely to be faulty.
    First thing I would check there is whether the CPU fan is full of dust and unable to do its job. Blowing the dust out is a cheap fix when it works Most likely at fault is the motherboard, but they tend to be expensive and awkward to replace if you aren't confident with PC building.

    As for the pre-built PCs, a GTX 1650 isn't that good a card. The RX 570 should cheaper and faster, though Scan seem to carry poor stock levels (you can get a 4GB card on Amazon for £121).

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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Thanks, my case is very clean on the inside I usually clean it with compressed air every year or so but I might have missed inside the heatsink last time , I reset windows and it seems to be working fine now , although I did have machine check exception once but I haven't had it since ive reset xmp profile settings to default in bios and set cpu to energy saving mode. I assume that one bsod was due to overheat as I had that after a few hours gaming. Will need to see if I can clean inside the heatsink as well. Most new budget systems seem a downgrade from what I already got so will keep using it as is for now.

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    Re: Probs with PC considering new system

    Quote Originally Posted by Skaramush View Post
    Thanks, my case is very clean on the inside I usually clean it with compressed air every year or so but I might have missed inside the heatsink last time , I reset windows and it seems to be working fine now , although I did have machine check exception once but I haven't had it since ive reset xmp profile settings to default in bios and set cpu to energy saving mode. I assume that one bsod was due to overheat as I had that after a few hours gaming. Will need to see if I can clean inside the heatsink as well. Most new budget systems seem a downgrade from what I already got so will keep using it as is for now.
    That's good news, at least it's working again now.

    You could either save your money or put it towards a better GPU


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