New Office PC - For 2D CAD / General Office Duties

[cptwhite_uk]

I've been given the go ahead from above to look for a new desktop PC to replace my aging 3570k system which is starting to show signs of failure (random freezing even after a fresh OS reinstall). It's probably the motherboard, but could be the PSU, GPU, RAM....given it's age I don't feel like fault finding, so given it's on the company's tab I'm looking for a budget system to replace it.

I've found this one available at AWD-IT
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/elite-amd-r...pc-system.html

Spec'd with the following
Standard mATX case (which is a CiT with inc. 500W PSU...ewww)
"B550M" motherboard
Ryzen 5 5600G
16Gb DDR4 3600 Adata Gammix D45
WD Blue SN750 500Gb NVME

...total is coming to £409.56, with a 3 year warranty. It'll more than meet my requirements, and will not be heavily taxed (I don't render or anything).

This is my starting point, but I'd be interested to see if anything better can be found for sub-£500. Especially with regards to the case / PSU.

[cptwhite_uk]

Links to other options:
https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/desktop...D/p/90RX007GUK

[DDY]

What about ex-corporate lease machines?


Pretty hard to beat in terms of bang for buck, e.g.

https://www.dellrefurbished.co.uk/


And, of course there's the regular Dell outlet:

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/dfb/shop/.../cp/outlet-dfb

[[GSV]Trig]

Just out of interest, what 2d program are you using, some prefer different Intel over AMD...

[DanceswithUnix]

Is there anything that you do on the 3570K that taxed it and you would want to go faster?

If those two I think I would go for the Lenovo. The other box is easier to upgrade & maintain, but as a business machine you probably have no interest in doing that.

You could get a PN50 or PN51 if you are allowed some mild assembly (plugging in an SSD and some ram)

Ebuyer have a bunch of options around that price point, but for example this one needs a windows licence: https://www.ebuyer.com/1414484-xenta...sd-no-xr-d5332
and this one only has single channel ram: https://www.ebuyer.com/1537328-xenta...ws-11-xr-d5438

I'm surprised Intel based kit isn't more competitive at this price point, but I seem to be seeing a lot of badly configured i3 boxes.

[[GSV]Trig]

I think thats just the Intel pricing, AMD has undercut them by miles, I was looking at some laptops a few months ago, yeah I know we're still in the things being a PITA to get hold of but 2 identically specced laptops, one i7, the other Ryzen 7, the Intel one was £150 more...


That said, I'd vote for the Lenovo as well...

[cptwhite_uk]

Just out of interest, what 2d program are you using, some prefer different Intel over AMD...

I'm using AutoCAD 2015 at present.

I'm leaning towards the Lenovo too, it's going to work out of the box, and have a semi-decent (if low wattage) PSU. Just the budget OEM motherboard and subpar case cooling put me off, but this isn't going to be stressed so that's just me sticking ym nose up as a PC builder, rather than it being an actual problem.

I was looking at Dell / HP systems and was shocked how much more expensive they are than Lenovo, I could get the Lenono 5600G system above with 500Gb NVME / 16Gb DDR4 3200 for about £100 less than a similar Dell i3-10105 based system (not even sure the Dell had 16Gb RAM?!)

[cptwhite_uk]

Is there anything that you do on the 3570K that taxed it and you would want to go faster?

Honestly, if it weren't for the reliability issues I could probably last with this machine for another couple of years. It's my old personal rig. I will probably take it home and try and fault find the issue, but I don't have time for messing about like that at work.

[[GSV]Trig]

I was looking at Dell / HP systems and was shocked how much more expensive they are than Lenovo, I could get the Lenono 5600G system above with 500Gb NVME / 16Gb DDR4 3200 for about £100 less than a similar Dell i3-10105 based system (not even sure the Dell had 16Gb RAM?!)

I think that's the Intel 'tax' chap, the laptops I was looking at were the same model Lenovo's the only difference was AMD/Intel with Intel being more...

[cptwhite_uk]

Issue with the Lenovo is that it only has 1x Display Out on the motherboard, so it would've needed a discreet GPU adding to it, bumping up the cost ~ £50. I bought some Dell Optiplex from ITZoo last week for colleagues that have i5-10500, 8Gb RAM, 256Gb NVME for £420.00, perfectly fine for the office tasks they'll be doing - accounts / outlook / excel.

But I really didn't want to regress from my 16Gb RAM, and I need more than 256Gb storage (I currently utilise about 220Gb on my current system). So this fit the bill nicely, and as always it comes with a 2 year warranty for piece of mind as well.

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?...ede&position=1

Dell Precision 3450:
i5-10505
16Gb RAM
512Gb NVME
Windows 11 - guess I'll be formatting and reinstalling Windows 10

£380 inc. VAT.

[[GSV]Trig]

Looks like a solid choice

[cptwhite_uk]

Opened it up to find a 2nd 512Gb NVME drive, nice bonus. Wasn't showing in Disk Management, so I'll have to check the BIOS, hopefully I can get it working