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Originally Posted by Vaul
Well, the reasons for not letting kids wear what they want to school, are many. Firstly, the uniform is there to look smart and present the correct image.
Oh, the correct image? What exactly is the 'correct' image? We all look the same, consequently everything must be hunky-dory?
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Secondly, it makes everyone equal.
It does not make everyone equal, it tries to impose equality on everyone. There's a big difference. Musilm clearly /= Christian, why try to pretend that all the kids at that school have a shared set of values when they clearly do not?
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Thridly, it prevent bullying, when people can't afford the latest fashions.
Yeah, I guess being bullied for not having the latest in Jilbab fashion is a real concern to this girl:lol:.
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Fourthly, it allows people to be identified as pupils of that school, for many reasons.
nichomach has said this already- put the school logo on the Jilbab, problem is solved. I don't exactly see why being indentified as a pupils of a particular school is so necessary, but never mind.
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We have school uniforms in this country for the same reasons we wear a suit to a court apperance. Turn up to your school in Jedi style Robes, or a filthy, ill-fitting clowns suit, or dressed as an Ewok, and all manner of problem are introduced.
Seriously though, the reasons for school uniform are pretty obvious really mate.
Right, well seeing as I'm obviously a thicko, perhaps you could explain them in words of one syllable. Cheers:).
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Indeed it is, me old mate. However, its also a well thought out and sensible bit of 'special treatment'. There really is no alternative to this.
Um, yeah, there is actually a perfectly good alternative to this, which is that Sikhs take their turbans off and put on a helmet before riding a motorcycle. They're not sewn on to their heads you know:rolleyes:.
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Now, in the case of the school, there already is a uniform for Muslm girls, and so a further bit of special treatment is not needed. One is needed, the other is a demand based on what the individual would prefer. This is not the same thing.
Once again, I entirely fail to see how simply imposing one dress code on all Muslim girls is acceptable? It suits the school and the government fine, but it obviously doesn't suit all the Muslim girls.
Good, so I can be proud that my country used to lock up people for being homosexual, and used to shoot shellshocked teenage boys for deserting. At the end of the day, rules are rules eh?
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Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Jewish, Atheist, Big Brother watcher. She did stand up for her rights, and she has now been told what they are, by the Court. We cannot allow individuals to bend and change the rules at a whim, simply because they are a member of an enthic or religious minority.
No, but we can protest against those rules when they clearly infringe an individual's fundamental human rights. At the end of the day, amongst all this moaning about Muslims abusing the system and taking the mick, has anyone given any thought to the fact that her parents (like every Muslim I know, which is several) almost certainly pay their taxes and national insurance and consequently have a right to have their daughter educated?
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Your personaly faith in the court system is of no importance. It is still the system that will be used to decide these matters, the system that has done so for many, many years, the system that will continue to do so for many years to come, and the best system we have for keeping the rule of law. Making catch-all stsements like 'the entire legal system is a disgrace' whilst offering no reasons why this should be the case, do not help your argument.
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Originally Posted by Rave
To be a high court judge you first have to be a barrister if I understand it correctly. To be a barrister you first have to join an Inn and dine 24 times at court. The legal system in this country is ridiculously backward and is frankly a disgrace.
Um- that's my argument?
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It is acceptable to the school, everyone else who attends the school, and the High Court. That is the point.
Well, then IMO they are all wrong. Nothing unusual in that to be fair.
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I like the way you say when you'll accept the rule of law though, like you have the option to opt out, because you don't like it. :D
Well, I have a democratic right to protest, which I have used in the past, and no doubt will use again in the future:).
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Use them as you see fit (I wouldn't want to infringe upon your human rights or anything)
Cheers;).
Rich :¬)