Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456
Results 81 to 89 of 89

Thread: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

  1. #81
    Drum & Bass Till I Die deejayburnout's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Kinglassie, Fife
    Posts
    2,010
    Thanks
    296
    Thanked
    133 times in 114 posts
    • deejayburnout's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte x470 Aorus Ultra Gaming
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 2600 at stock speeds ( for now)
      • Memory:
      • 2 x Corsair 8GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz
      • Storage:
      • Gigabyte 128GB M.2 PCIe x2 NVMe SSD, 120GB Kingston SV200, 2 x 1TB WD Drive, 2 x 2TB WD Drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS ROG Strix RX 580 8G Gaming OC Edition
      • PSU:
      • OCZ 750 Watt
      • Case:
      • NZXT Noctis 450
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG 34UM65-P Ultrawide
      • Internet:
      • 72mb Down 19mb up - Vodafone

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    But you can legally discriminate on marital status.
    You can get tax relief if you are married. This discriminates against non married people. All legal and above board.
    Better to Burn out than Fade Away
    Check out my Youtube channel - Crispy Crisperson

  2. #82
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    2,401
    Thanks
    87
    Thanked
    151 times in 145 posts
    • Willzzz's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte
      • CPU:
      • 4670K
      • PSU:
      • FD Newton R3 600W
      • Case:
      • Corsair 350D

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    And in this case the court found that this wasn't the case, it found that they were treated differently because they were gay.

    They are still allowed to refuse guests for any lawful reason. In doubt seek legal advice...
    You are suggesting every B&B should have a lawyer on call? Sounds expensive.

  3. #83
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    29,350
    Thanks
    1,555
    Thanked
    2,963 times in 2,403 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbouk View Post
    And in this case the court found that this wasn't the case, it found that they were treated differently because they were gay.
    That's the key point here. They tried to argue that they were discriminating on marital status, but from what I can tell, they didn't try especially hard to assess marital status for straight people (often assumption that they were married), and made no attempt to assess marital status for the gay couple (100% assumption of unmarried - pop open one of the previous Hexus debate about civil partnership vs marriage, for interest). So while the judge noted their claimed intention, the court might have thought that they applied these intentions unequally between gay and straight people, hence discrimination.

  4. Received thanks from:

    jimbouk (22-10-2012)

  5. #84
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,063
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    85 times in 79 posts

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    You are suggesting every B&B should have a lawyer on call? Sounds expensive.
    they should be aware of key legal issues from day one, with this policy being on in particular. however if they were members of the federation of small businesses, which would be at a very small fee for such a small company, they would have lawyers (not one, but many, specialising in many parts of business law, including employment law) on call at no additional charge, and in some cases at least they provide in addition some legal insurance if you follow their advice and it turns out further action is required, such as representation in court.

    thus, it's not expensive at all

  6. #85
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,063
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    85 times in 79 posts

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    But you can legally discriminate on marital status.

    If B&B owners weren't allowed to refuse any guests for any reason then an awful lot of people would have to rethink.
    but the fact remains that they didn't. they accepted the booking that was made in advance. they then turned away the couple when they turned up. they didn't have another room to offer them, so the couple weren't allowed to stay at all

  7. #86
    OilSheikh
    Guest

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    As long as you dont racially or religiously discriminate, I am OK with it.

  8. #87
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,063
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    85 times in 79 posts

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    As long as you dont racially or religiously discriminate, I am OK with it.
    i presume you forgot about sex and disability discrimination? but what about age discrimination? all are illegal in the UK

  9. #88
    The late but legendary peterb - Onward and Upward peterb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Looking down & checking on swearing
    Posts
    19,380
    Thanks
    2,892
    Thanked
    3,403 times in 2,693 posts

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by deejayburnout View Post
    You can get tax relief if you are married. This discriminates against non married people. All legal and above board.
    Married man's tax relief was abolished some years ago.
    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

    Been helped or just 'Like' a post? Use the Thanks button!
    My broadband speed - 750 Meganibbles/minute

  10. #89
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,063
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    85 times in 79 posts

    Re: Should B&Bs be allowed to discriminate?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Married man's tax relief was abolished some years ago.
    but if you are over 77, and married before 2005 and still married, you can still take advantage of it. i'm sure there are hundreds of hexus members living it up

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/married-allow.htm

    but the reality is that most forms of discrimination are completely legal, only a few types are illegal in the UK. so if you have something against gingers, you don't need to employ them. if someone has a beard, you don't need to employ them. long haired hippy, that's ok, you don't need to employ them. squinty eyes? no problem, they probably couldn't even fill in the paperwork anyways

    we don't have complete freedom of speech in the UK, as is the same in most countries, even though many think they do, and discrimination laws similarly have parts where it is legal to have different rules for men/women, straight/gay, race, age and disability. but that's the point, it's legal, and there are reasons behind it. it would be crazy to pay child allowance to a 70 year old, or disability allowance to a perfectly fit person

Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •