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    Help with an Intel Build please

    Hi, i've wanted to game on a PC for ages, i finished college, and eventually got a job as a computer technician, so now have some money, can you review this build for me please, criticise as much as you want, it needs to have SATA 3, HDMI, and 4 RAM slots, don't comment if you're just going to slate intel, and go for AMD over intel or AMD over Nvidia, thanks, also this is a £400 EXVat PC, i will play GTA5, 4, Minecraft, maybe battlefield, and other games on it.

    (speaking to a mate, says i will need a bigger PSU, so dont comment that, and maybe a better case)

    http://www.scan.co.uk/savedbasket/d0...cf7406457407e5
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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    You can get the 1600MHz RAM for the same price.
    The 430W PSU is more than ample for that setup.
    You have a non-overclocking CPU and an overclockers motherboard. That may be due to features you are after now or in the future but might be worth looking at.
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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You can get the 1600MHz RAM for the same price.
    The 430W PSU is more than ample for that setup.
    You have a non-overclocking CPU and an overclockers motherboard. That may be due to features you are after now or in the future but might be worth looking at.
    thanks for your answer, the RAM speed makes next to no difference in anything though? and i may overclock it, if it struggles to play future games etc, but for now, i dont really want to overclock it

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    I would also change the graphics card too.

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Quote Originally Posted by hcashmore11 View Post
    and i may overclock it
    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You have a non-overclocking CPU
    Quote Originally Posted by hcashmore11 View Post
    RAM speed makes next to no difference in anything though?
    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You can get the 1600MHz RAM for the same price.
    Other than what's already been said, you don't have a HDD or Windows listed in that spec; unless you already have them, you'll presumably need to include them in your budget.

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You have a non-overclocking CPU and an overclockers motherboard. That may be due to features you are after now or in the future but might be worth looking at.
    What this guy said
    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Other than what's already been said, you don't have a HDD or Windows listed in that spec; unless you already have them, you'll presumably need to include them in your budget.
    Also what this guy said
    Thats pretty much it

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    I can see (from your perspective) the reason to go for a Z97 MoBo. If you have cheap RAM you can just overclock (only Z class chipsets can overclock RAM).

    Also, any specific reason for SATA3 by any chance? Unless you have some SSD, no reason to go for over your needed speed limit with some plain HDD.

    Sticking with box cooler?
    Sticking with current state RAM modules?

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    ah right, and yes, i plan to get an SSD sometime soon, or use the one from my laptop if i stop using my laptop, or it breaks again,

    Here's another draft, (hopefully the final one) of the build going by what people have said

    http://www.scan.co.uk/savedbasket/93...091a423a6ce574

    and for now (until I need to OC) i will use the standard cooler, and sorry, what do you mean by, current state RAM modules?

    Quote Originally Posted by mynameissi View Post
    What this guy said

    Also what this guy said
    Thats pretty much it
    yeah, i have HDD's all over, and multiple copies of Windows i can use, so i dont have to add those, or monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers etc to the build either. Also the post i've just made, has a 4670K CPU in it, which is unlocked, ready to be over clocked, thanks
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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    As mentioned earlier you can get faster RAM for near enough the same price:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%...as-9-9-9-28-15
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%...1-11-11-30-15v

    You're correct in that it doesn't make much of a difference in a lot of client workloads, but then neither does a few hundred MHz due to higher CPU models/small overclocks, but people still choose to. Faster RAM can make quite a difference to IGP performance, for example in case you want to re-purpose it in the future.

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    As mentioned earlier you can get faster RAM for near enough the same price:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%...as-9-9-9-28-15
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%...1-11-11-30-15v

    You're correct in that it doesn't make much of a difference in a lot of client workloads, but then neither does a few hundred MHz due to higher CPU models/small overclocks, but people still choose to. Faster RAM can make quite a difference to IGP performance, for example in case you want to re-purpose it in the future.
    Oh right, i see, i wanted the XMS there, but someome told me it will make no difference at all, from the value stuff, so for like £2 more, i might as well go for the faster stuff, right? awesome, thank you

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    I just picked the XMS as an example as it happened to be one of the cheapest 1600 kits available, but as you say it doesn't really matter; the heatsinks are more for aesthetics than anything especially if used at stock.

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    right, i may OC the RAM later on, if it doesnt work well enough, so is the XMS a better choice than the Value?

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Well my advice would be to generally avoid overclocking the RAM unless you have a really good reason to; and having the faster stuff in the first place kind of negates that need.

    Just to reiterate, RAM speed doesn't make a huge difference in many client applications, so wringing a bit more performance out of it with overclocking probably isn't worth it at the expense of risking stability.

    I personally don't really consider 'value/performance' in my RAM buying decisions; at stock, it really doesn't matter provided the specs are the same. The 'performance' stuff might be binned higher to allow for some OC/timings headroom, but that's not necessarily a guarantee.

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    right, i understand, thanks for clearing that up, and do you think i'd notice the difference between 1333 and 1600mhz ram then?

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    Re: Help with an Intel Build please

    Quote Originally Posted by hcashmore11 View Post
    right, i understand, thanks for clearing that up, and do you think i'd notice the difference between 1333 and 1600mhz ram then?
    In everyday usage? No.

    On my AMD FX8350 I went from normal desktop 1600 RAM to 1333 server ECC ram. ECC can really slow things down, and I can't feel *any* difference. I'm sure I could measure one if I tried.

    But there are times when it will help a bit. I would always spend the extra couple of quid on the quicker stuff.

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    right, i see, what times would it be able to help then? i might be rendering videos and things too sometimes, so would it help then, and yeah, for £2 more, i think i will just get the better stuff

    right, i get you, when would it help then for the RAM to be faster? i will get the XFX just wondering, and i will be video rendering as well as gaming, this sould be pretty fast at that too, right?
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