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    News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Been a long time in coming, but Adobe finally releases the GPU-accelerated version of the plug-in.
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Ah yes, the ubiquitous platform independent plugin that has features that only work on certain platforms.

    Have they done anything to sort out the fact that a badly crafted piece of flash can rob you of a CPU core? Doubt it.

    As you can see I'm in a particularly anti-flash mood today
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    err who cares if it can bomb out at 100%, surely the Kernel won't let a normal priority or lower thread prevent you from closing a tab thus solving the problem?
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Well that's true but I still get peeved when I have to work out which of my 15 tabs is causing the slowdown.
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Look at the chrome task manager?
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    I see what you're doing

    OK, so Firefox could alleviate some of the problems with sandboxed tabs and a task manager, but really why should it have to? Flash has always been a tremendous CPU drain.
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    OK, so Firefox could alleviate some of the problems with sandboxed tabs and a task manager, but really why should it have to? Flash has always been a tremendous CPU drain.
    "Steve", eh? Steve Jobs is it?

    (PS. I totally agree).

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I see what you're doing

    OK, so Firefox could alleviate some of the problems with sandboxed tabs and a task manager, but really why should it have to? Flash has always been a tremendous CPU drain.
    It's okay, now it's a GPU drain

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    It's okay, now it's a GPU drain
    And only on Windows.

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by this_is_gav View Post
    And only on Windows.
    And (presumably) only if you've got an appropriate GPU and the appropriate drivers (so presumably no GPU accelration for older Intel GPUs... )

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    I'm assuming I don't as CPU usage seems pretty much the same after the update. Considering Flash is looking vulnerable with HTML5 just around the corner why do they insist on trying to force users to install their proprietary crapware DLM? The sooner HTML5 arrives the better!

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    I'm assuming I don't as CPU usage seems pretty much the same after the update. Considering Flash is looking vulnerable with HTML5 just around the corner why do they insist on trying to force users to install their proprietary crapware DLM? The sooner HTML5 arrives the better!
    You don't need to install it though right?

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Adobe make it hard not to (I couldn't find any direct download links on their site) but it's possible to just download the current installer from here: http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flas...ash_player.exe

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    I'm assuming I don't as CPU usage seems pretty much the same after the update. Considering Flash is looking vulnerable with HTML5 just around the corner why do they insist on trying to force users to install their proprietary crapware DLM? The sooner HTML5 arrives the better!
    Vulnerable in what way? As far as I know pretty much the only thing HTML5 overlaps with Flash is playing video and even then there's still currently no standard video format for HTML5. And the most popular format at moment isn't open and is subject in many cases to licensing. I can't think of a single thing our company has made in Flash that could be done with just HTML5 assuming it were completely and precisely specified.

    We have used and still use other tools as well but we're not talking about Flash being just a video player (hasn't been in over a decade) and I can't see it as one directly replacing another but in fact both are complementary to each other and both have evolved in their own way. Flash is far from perfect but if anything we're finding Flash covering MORE of what other tools covered and more and more projects requiring to be Flash and/or Flex based.
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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    HTML5 provides a complete interactive panel interface called "canvas" which is scriptable and should be able to do pretty much anything you can in flash. Particularly when combined with video and audio tags. I'd be intrigued to know what your company is doing in flash that you think would be so hard to do some other (open) way...?

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    Re: News - Adobe Flash 10.1 final hits the web

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I see what you're doing

    OK, so Firefox could alleviate some of the problems with sandboxed tabs and a task manager, but really why should it have to? Flash has always been a tremendous CPU drain.
    Unless some fiendish foe were to write some JavaScript that bombed, or used a timer heavily.............

    Admit it, the firey fox is doomed, now it is so bloated and heavy it couldn't even maul a young child.
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