News - Intel's Haswell line-up leaked? Aiming for release in Q2 2013

[HEXUS]

Datasheet suggests Intel's continuing to push-down power consumption.

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[Jimbo75]

Why do I get the feeling my 2500K will be lasting me for another 5 years...

[Irien]

Anyone know why the K versions always drop VT-d options? Since the K versions usually command "premium product" positioning, you'd think they'd have a full feature set. I ran into this problem recently advising someone on a SandyBridge-Extreme setup (they needed 64Gb RAM for virtualisation purposes), and the only "mid range" part is a K-series with the same virtualisation cuts.

[quantasm]

I think with TXT and VT-d omitted from the unlocked K processors, it's a bigger decision between 4770K and 4770 than previous generations.

[scaryjim]

K series are for enthusiast overclocking, no good reason for them to have full hardware virtualisation (from Intel's point of view, anyway) - that's reserved for non-overclocking chips that will be more stable as they won't get run outside of stock configuration.

For full feature support on the entire processor range, you can't beat AMD, frankly. Even my cheapass Sempron 140 had full ECC support and hardware virtualisation. Class

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Moose is behind the technology curve already!!

[watercooled]

I don't understand why they'd fuse it off though? It's not like a bit of cache/IGP/cores you can disable to improve yield, it's fused off purely for marketing reasons, but I don't understand why on the most expensive CPU? Still, the lack of vPro is probably a bonus...

Also, does anyone else think something looks dubious about using the same IGP on every initial desktop part?

[MustardCutter]

Yet another new socket from Intel...

[Platinum]

Yawn, desktop X68 space has become so dull of late, Software guys / games devs pull your finger out

[CampGareth]

Aw dangit I was just about to buy a new 11.6" laptop with an ivybridge quad, do I wait or do I buy it anyway...

[watercooled]

Depends what you want and if you're prepared to wait, there's always something better down the line. Apparently Haswell is more about improving IGP performance, with Intel claiming more modest CPU performance improvements, something like 10% last time I checked, along with some new instructions. I.e. realistically, not likely to be noticeable over IVB in general tasks. If you want more IGP performance, there's Trinity out now.

Also remember, Q2 could mean end of June, provided it's not delayed. Up to you if you want to wait potentially ~6 months or more for what might be an unnoticeable update for you?

[hiyayhi]

Aw dangit I was just about to buy a new 11.6" laptop with an ivybridge quad, do I wait or do I buy it anyway...

I would wait as the Haswel chips are supposed to be a fair amount faster.

[cassist]

Are there also rumours about new socket 2011 processors? by the way, I think Intel leaked them on purpose to make the crowd interested.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Still,an HD4600 IGP??

[zap117]

Rise in TDP was kind of unexpected, considering it's still 22nm like Ivy bridge. All the other specs are pretty similar, which doesn't really mean anything since the change in architecture is what really matters.

[CampGareth]

with Intel claiming more modest CPU performance improvements, something like 10% last time I checked, along with some new instructions. I.e. realistically, not likely to be noticeable over IVB in general tasks. <snip>
Also remember, Q2 could mean end of June, provided it's not delayed. Up to you if you want to wait potentially ~6 months or more for what might be an unnoticeable update for you?

Well that pretty much settles it, I was gonna underclock the IGP anyway as that little beast has a GT 650M for anything kinda intensive so it's only CPU performance that matters. Also I don't really want to wait, my current laptop is from 2006 so isn't adequate any more. *buys*