DirectX 12 benchmark slides imply significant frame rate boost

[HEXUS]

Slides showing DirectX 12 and DirectX 11 profiling were released by Stardock founder.

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[shaithis]

Stop with the juicy tidbits and get it in the wild!

[Kushan]

Hold on, isn't this just the same information that Microsoft released back in march?

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/archive/2014/03/20/directx-12.aspx

Those slides looked awfully familiar...

[Corky34]

So some 6-10 years after we got multi-core processors Microsoft finally update DX to really uses multiple cores effectively.

[zaph0d]

"And you too can be the proud user of a DirectX 12 Equipped Experience Exclusively with a Brand New copy of Windows 10!"

[xslavic]

My Mantle works pretty well at the time,we excpect even better performance with DX12.

[Jowsey]

"And you too can be the proud user of a DirectX 12 Equipped Experience Exclusively with a Brand New copy of Windows 10!"

This. Has it been confirmed what OS's are getting DX12? Obviously W10, but what about W8 or (the real question!) W7?

This also leads to a little thought. I have a first gen AMD APU, the 3870K. So old tech quad core. Gets through my daily tasks with no real issue and doesn't appear to bottleneck my GTX760 crazy amounts at 1080p. But I'm sure all PC enthusiasts will agree, you are never happy with your hardware and are always looking to upgrade. My next upgrade will be to broadwell i5-K (or whatever number they give it) with a new mobo obviously. But as the days go on these new API's become more multi-core optimised. I recall seeing a benchmark for Star Citizen using Mantle where they down clock an 8 core FX cpu and did benchmarks. They took it down from 4.5GHZ all the way to 1.5GHZ with only the slightest change in performance. And it makes me think, is it worth money upgrading to a quadcore with better single-threaded performance when games are going to start utilizing multicored CPU's effectively and I already have a CPU with 4 cores!

TL;DR, doesn't this really bat into AMD's many core, poor single thread performance field for gamers? And will we see a shift away from the i5 gaming dominance?

[Mauley]

Clearly Windows 10 and DX12 will go hand in hand. I still think that we will see it on Windows 8 and maybe 7 as well.

[zaph0d]

They've got a big issue to deal with, If they let us use DX12 with Windows 7 we won't upgrade to Win10, If they make DX12 a Win10 Exclusive (like dx10 & vista) we'll see that catch 22 situation again, no users = no games = no games = no reason to upgrade = no dev support.
This could be MS's last chance to appease the gamers & devs before they start to migrate to less restrictive platforms ie SteamOS

[Nightwolf__]

"And you too can be the proud user of a DirectX 12 Equipped Experience Exclusively with a Brand New copy of Windows 10!"

This. Has it been confirmed what OS's are getting DX12? Obviously W10, but what about W8 or (the real question!) W7?

This also leads to a little thought. ... utilizing multicored CPU's effectively and I already have a CPU with 4 cores!

TL;DR, doesn't this really bat into AMD's many core, poor single thread performance field for gamers? And will we see a shift away from the i5 gaming dominance?

I definitely hope your thoughts are correct, and my 8 core gamble of few years ago will be right.
I'm sitting here with a 8150 @ 5.1Ghz. Stupid of me to early adopt. Should have wait till the 8350.
Looking at the history of Microsoft they will probably make DX12 win10 exclusive with some mumbo jumbo marketing to push transition. (Like they did with DX10.)

[shaithis]

This. Has it been confirmed what OS's are getting DX12? Obviously W10, but what about W8 or (the real question!) W7?

My guess would be Windows 10 (and later) only.
They are giving W10 as a free upgrade to 8 or 8.1.....It looks like they will kill 8/8.1 off and as Windows 7 never got the versions of DX in 8/8.1, I think we can assume it won't get 12!

[Corky34]

I thought Windows 7 got DX 11, and a subset of 11.1, isn't that the versions (mostly) that came with 8.x ?

[shaithis]

Only a subset, so not full 11.1. Windows 8.1 then added 11.2 with none of it being back-ported.

[Tabbykatze]

Win 7 is pushing into it's sixth year of service, I won't expect them to keep continuing support of it. I doubt it will be a Win10 onwards exclusive due to the absolute failure of DX10 and Vista combined (I have more open graves for anyone who says it's better than barely functional). I would expect it to be a timed exclusive at most but I haven't heard that the Win10 Abstraction Layers are being completely reworked so it's likely the DLLs may bleed back to Win7. But I can't see them supporting Win7 for much longer considering Microsoft are changing their release strategies to incremental build ups of the OS similar to Apple's infrastructure.

Windows 7 was a fantastic operating system and so was Windows 8/8.1 if people stopped whining about a start menu and get off their backsides to modify it back to the old system. But Windows 10 is their next "big baby".

[ZaO]

Why are any of you guys even questioning if any other OS's are gonna get DX12? I bet you it's gonna be exclusive to Windows 10 and newer. This is how Microsoft always do it. I'll place bets with you if you like?

Edit: Seeing as W10 is a free upgrade for W8 users - you can sort of count that as W8 getting DX12. But not technically..

Anyway - I still hope Mantle comes out on top here. But if DX12 is actually a big improvement, I can see devs losing interest in Mantle :/ Either way - good on Amd for actually doing something and pushing for more efficient Api's for us Pc users. They deserve serious credit for that!! Ms probably wouldn't have acted othwerwise...

[domix596]

Surely, it was so long since expected upgrade to DirectX 12!