Read more.And its 14nm Summit Ridge APUs will begin to be produced in 2016.
Read more.And its 14nm Summit Ridge APUs will begin to be produced in 2016.
Oh. Underwhelming.
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Hopefully some power management tweaks will get us longer boosts and better than the headline figures here.
Still, x86 is pretty dull these days from both sides of the fence. If you want interesting, better off perusing the ARM and MIPS news
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...re-cortex-a72/
or get an FPGA board and have a go yourself http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...open-mipsfpga/
A bit like your useless comment then? If you have nothing to say, don't comment.
I'm personally a bit disappointed that it's now looking like we won't be seeing Zen next year. The most recent stuff I've read on this pointed to a 2016 release for Zen. Fingers crossed that it will be worth the wait when it finally arrives. Same for Excavator of course, but I won't hold my breath.
Yeah, AMD is going to be underwhelming on the desktop until Zen is released next year.
At least Carrizo will really up their game in mobile, which is where more money is made.
But in reality, high-end x86 news is always rather boring these days, and has been for a while.
Yeah things have been stagnant since Sandy Bridge, maybe even Nehalem (they fall behind SB but the first gen i5s and i7s still perform admirably in new games provided you're not shooting for triple-figure framerates). I'm not getting too excited about Skylake, though if Zen does turn out to be something exceptional (let's hope so!) then Intel will have to respond with something similarly impressive. Maybe finally the move to post-silicon chips! I'll be surprised if nothing exciting has happened within two years of now.
What does it matter now if men believe or no?
What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
To murmur in pity that my words were true
(Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)
To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....
Pleiades (28-04-2015)
I think Carrizo might be a tough sell at this point for AMD, even if it "ups their game in mobile". Currently, I'm pinning my hopes for AMD on Zen CPU-wise and Fiji GPU-wise, hoping both of these will be game changers. Or at least bring AMD back into the competition (probably more realistic).
Not my only comment on this article. I've actually contributed something, if you bothered to read. Your comments are (as is typical of you) useless and say nothing. Infact I'm not sure I've ever seen a comment from you that was more than a useless one-liner. Like somebody pointed out, that's your right. But why even bother?
I see an emotion being expressed. One that I happen to agree with. Whether it's Intel or AMD, a CPU "refresh" is only slightly more exciting than a can of beans with "New and Improved" on the label.
In the case of AMD, most news is underwhelming. The best part about AMD articles is not usually the news iself, it's the comment section where what people have to offer is another emotion... their hope that next time, maybe, cross-fingers, AMD will have something worth the wait.
Pleiades (29-04-2015)
To be fair to AMD, Piledriver was a genuinely impressive improvement over Bulldozer. It may not be enough to catch up with Intel, but it narrowed the gap considerably. The gains compared to Bulldozer were far more significant (and exciting - another emotion for you :-)) than anything we've seen from Intel since Nehalem. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic (more emotion) about Excavator, but anticipating something much more newsworthy with Zen. Let's hope it forces Intel to finally do something exciting.
[QUOTE=spl;847257]And what if Intel can't? You make it sound like Intel automatically can just pull a rabbit out of their ass and make a better processor than AMD. What if Jim Keller really is a better CPU engineer than anybody at Intel? Won't THAT make things interesting...
It's an APU. It's not supposed to be earth shattering. But doing what is, for all intents and purposes, re-branding, isn't going to win any over new fans, and it's not going to do much for keeping the loyal fans interested.
They can't take too many more quarterly losses like they have been lately, and they're running out of board members to fire. This isn't fixing that.
Sadly it doesn't quite work like that. There are lots of things in CPU design that just come down to how many transistors can you afford to put down on the die, and that includes floating point performance which very many benchmarks are biased towards. So let's say Intel go from having 2 SSE units to having 4 SSE units. The logic to drive those is a scaling of what they already have, and if they can get to 10nm first then they have the transistors. With any space left, they can add some more cache. So yes Mr Keller is good, but Intel have enough smart people to keep up.
Intel have generally been behind the curve in CPU design ability, it hasn't done them any harm so far, in much the same way that their GPU design is still really lacking yet loads of people use it daily.
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