Nvidia confirms more GeForce GTX 1070 specifications

[HEXUS]

The cut down GP104 GPU in this card offers 1920 CUDA cores with a boost clock of 1.6GHz.

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[scaryjim]

So (theoretically) around 70% of the performance of a 1080? I reckon that should put it between the 980 and 980 Ti. If we get direct conversion + VAT pricing it'll come in at around £300 for the cheapest cards, which looks to be a fair bit cheaper than the current 980? That feels both good and underwhelming, somehow...!

[jim]

I have been mulling over an upgrade, but I'll need something more enticing than that if you're right, scary.

It would be really hard to stomach blowing £300 on a new card, irrespective of performance. And if it's not a really significant boost over a 970 then it becomes even less sensible.

[cheesemp]

Wish AMD would hurry up with polaris 10 - Want to see benchmarks between the two before I pick one of the two up. From rumours the Polaris 10 should be somewhere between a 390 and 390x which should make it close to a 1070 at a guess

[sykobee]

"1,600MHz max GPU boost core clock frequency
6.75 TFLOP/s single-precision floating point performance"

1920 * 2 * 1600 = 6.15 TFLOPS.

In addition, it's irregular to use boost clocks to calculate base TFLOPS, but Nvidia seem to be doing it this generation.

Regarding Polaris 10, with one SKU's spec leak of 2304 minimum shaders and 1.266GHz minimum clock, we get 5.8 TFLOPS.

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_de...0b6c5f8c0&l=en

If AMD can get a boost to around 1.4GHz, then they will be beating the 1070 on paper by around 5%.

[excalibur1814]

The usual nVidia trick. Drip feed the performance, with the usual 10/15fps extra over the previous gen, which is to be expected. Man when will companies stop milking customers? Never.

Let the people that JUST HAVE to have the latest buy them releasing cheaper 980/980ti cards to ebay. Buy those instead and overclock if you feel like it. Far more sensible.

[azrael-]

Sadly, only 7.45 of the 8 GB will actually be usable. But shhhh... don't tell anyone in advance.

[Corky34]

Could knowing that the 1080 can reach around 2Ghz translate over to the 1070?
Sure you don't have the same amount of cores and slower RAM but (theoretically) if their based on the same architecture and node shouldn't that mean a 1070 could reach 1080 frequencies?

[kalniel]

"1,600MHz max GPU boost core clock frequency
6.75 TFLOP/s single-precision floating point performance"

1920 * 2 * 1600 = 6.15 TFLOPS.

In addition, it's irregular to use boost clocks to calculate base TFLOPS, but Nvidia seem to be doing it this generation.

Regarding Polaris 10, with one SKU's spec leak of 2304 minimum shaders and 1.266GHz minimum clock, we get 5.8 TFLOPS.

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_de...0b6c5f8c0&l=en

If AMD can get a boost to around 1.4GHz, then they will be beating the 1070 on paper by around 5%.

Or that 1.266GHz could be the average sustained boost speed, in which case they won't.

[scaryjim]

... if it's not a really significant boost over a 970 then it becomes even less sensible.

I reckon it'll be a faster than a 980, so that's a decent boost over a 970. OTOH it's priced $50 higher at launch than the 970, so nvidia's playing fast and loose with their market segments. More than 10% is a fairly significant price hike for the same segment card, regardless of the performance differential.

[jag272]

Hmmm looking pretty interesting, so somewhere between the 980 and 980 Ti probably. May well end up going with this then, unless theres any shenanigans, I don't expect any 3.5gb vram issues if theyre charging an extra $50 this time, but we'll see.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Hmmm looking pretty interesting, so somewhere between the 980 and 980 Ti probably. May well end up going with this then, unless theres any shenanigans, I don't expect any 3.5gb vram issues if theyre charging an extra $50 this time, but we'll see.

The Founders Edition will cost £375 though - I really hope we get a GTX980TI level card,otherwise what is the point??

The Fury and Fury Nano have been under £400 before and those are both between a GTX980 and GTX980TI.

Is it me or are people just setting their standards so low for this generation - price/performance is not really improving at all.

[jag272]

The Founders Edition will cost £375 though - I really hope we get a GTX980TI level card,otherwise what is the point??

The Fury and Fury Nano have been under £400 before and those are both between a GTX980 and GTX980TI.

Is it me or are people just setting their standards so low for this generation - price/performance is not really improving at all.

Ye, for the price I expect it to be much closer towards the 980 Ti end of that scale, I saw people previously saying they expect it to match the Ti, but given the 1080 results that might be slightly too close for Nvidia's liking. Regardless even then, I'll be buying a cheap no frills aftermarket card, probably EVGA this time around assuming they don't have any issues like the original round of ACX 2.0 970s. Even then, I'd find it much more agreeable without the $50 price hike, but so long as the performance is sufficient I can justify it. There is no chance what so ever of me buying a founders edition though, the price on those is just absurdly high.

[jnutt]

I think this could be a good upgrade to my GTX660

[kalniel]

Is it me or are people just setting their standards so low for this generation - price/performance is not really improving at all.

Think it's just you

But seriously price/performance for 980ti level looks like it'll improve (on a new release : new release basis), but there was already good competition in the bracket below, which is needed again now for price/performance to get better - look for next year really. AMD could have competed with 1070 and taken a hit to margins with a vega sized card on GDDR5, but they need to improve bottom line a bit so went with a below 1070 and higher margins. Higher margins all round means less good price/performance for us end users.

It's market factors that ultimately determine price, which don't interest me as much as the tech, so I can continue to be impressed by the speed gains while waiting for a reasonable price before purchasing

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Think it's just you

But seriously price/performance for 980ti level looks like it'll improve (on a new release : new release basis), but there was already good competition in the bracket below, which is needed again now for price/performance to get better - look for next year really. AMD could have competed with 1070 and taken a hit to margins with a vega sized card on GDDR5, but they need to improve bottom line a bit so went with a below 1070 and higher margins. Higher margins all round means less good price/performance for us end users.

It's market factors that ultimately determine price, which don't interest me as much as the tech, so I can continue to be impressed by the speed gains while waiting for a reasonable price before purchasing

But people are getting excited if a GTX1070 matches GTX980TI level performance at £300 to £400.

That is 20% to 25% faster than a £300 R9 390X and barely 10% faster than a Fury Nano according to TPU.

People are setting their expectations way too low,especially when you consider the GP104 is made on a second generation 16NM Finfet process. That is literally a 1.5 node shrink after 4 years being on 28NM.

The tech might be interesting but it is not really pushing the market that much forward apart from making PC gaming more expensive and with every performance increase actually not delivering much better price/performance.