Kaby Lake Pentium chips listed on Intel's ARK

[HEXUS]

Processors gain Hyper Threading benefits but lose ECC support.

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[cheesemp]

Gosh Intels naming conventions are a mess now. The Intel Pentium N3700 is a quad core chip for mobile use... They really should have stuck with Atom for low power, low spec mobile chips... Its become impossible to just buy a chip based on numbers without researching which core type they are using (and benchmarks) to actually know what you are getting nowadays. I miss the days where atom meant mobile, celeron, pentium, core where desktop with varying levels of performance.

[scaryjim]

Nice to see the main site has finally caught up with the forums on this one http://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware-...-champion.html

[shaithis]

Gosh Intels naming conventions are a mess now. The Intel Pentium N3700 is a quad core chip for mobile use... They really should have stuck with Atom for low power, low spec mobile chips... Its become impossible to just buy a chip based on numbers without researching which core type they are using (and benchmarks) to actually know what you are getting nowadays. I miss the days where atom meant mobile, celeron, pentium, core where desktop with varying levels of performance.

To be fair, model numbers from almost every tech manufacturer has been a complete mess for years and really are not indicative of their performance.

My main problem with Intel at the moment is how the features within a range keeps changing....like this with the HT/ECC, we now have Xeons and desktop CPUs on the same socket that requires different chipsets.....like Intel hadn't made motherboard/cpu pairings restrictive enough already......

[cheesemp]

To be fair, model numbers from almost every tech manufacturer has been a complete mess for years and really are not indicative of their performance.

To be honest it's not a good excuse is it. It can't be that hard to have a model for cheap mobile, expensive mobile, cheap desktop, expensive desktop (and maybe mid level?), a generation and then a performance number? Its frustrating as choosing laptops etc for family/friends use to be simple job I could do do in a few minutes (i.e. find i3 laptop with 4gb/1tb etc) now it takes ages to work out what is equivalent to what...

[jigger]

Intel giveth and Intel and taketh away.

[Rubarb]

I just don't feel they are offing enough upgrade to buy any of these atm