AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and Ryzen 5 1600X (14nm Zen)

[HEXUS]

Bringing Ryzen to the mainstream.

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[Irien]

I believe there was a patch for Warhammer in the last 10 days which brought AMD performance up considerably (although I think still behind Intel due to clock speeds). The review didn't mention if this was present or not?

[CAPTAIN_ALLCAPS]

For the quad core R5 1500X to beat the quad core i5 7600K in most of the multithreaded productivity and synthetic gaming benchmarks here is a heck of a statement.

The 1600X also has the potential to put the i7 7700K in a very tight spot too for gaming, though obviously there would need to be improvements in real-world games to match the potential in 3Dmark/VRmark.

[Tarinder]

I believe there was a patch for Warhammer in the last 10 days which brought AMD performance up considerably (although I think still behind Intel due to clock speeds). The review didn't mention if this was present or not?

We tried it with and without the patch. With our ultra-quality settings the difference was within the standard deviation of the test.

[Hicks12]

The new bios for the c6h with the new AGESA 1.0.0.4 provides some performance uplift and better memory support it also reduces the latency to around 75 which would bring it very close to the 6900 which at least makes it less concerning in the results.

Looks like a solid line up, happy with my 1700 at 3.9ghz

[watercooled]

The difference between Vishera and Ryzen

[Corky34]

Did i miss any mention if AMD's revised power plan was used, or does it not make a noticeable difference in benchmarks.

Also it seem AMD dropped the ball by not getting the updated microcode that's meant to improve RAM latency to partners in time for the R5 launch.

[Tarinder]

Ryzen-balanced was used, Corky34.

[watercooled]

Did i miss any mention if AMD's revised power plan was used, or does it not make a noticeable difference in benchmarks.

Also it seem AMD dropped the ball by not getting the updated microcode that's meant to improve RAM latency to partners in time for the R5 launch.

Some motherboards already have updated firmware with the latest AGESA code. E.g. http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/...-10#support-dl

Version F4: 1. Update CPU AGESA 1004a

[spacein_vader]

Wrong thread.

[Corky34]

Some motherboards already have updated firmware with the latest AGESA code. E.g. http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/...-10#support-dl

Version F4: 1. Update CPU AGESA 1004a

That makes it even more of a bummer, knowing it's only a matter of days (yesterday for Gigabyte) before Asus probably release an update.

[Ulti]

Great results and inline with what I expected. As watercooled mentioned, the jump from their last gen to Ryzen is massive! I'm glad they managed to effectively catch up with Intel. I myself won't be upgrading from my trusty i7-4790K which is a testament to how stagnant the CPU market has been since then. The Ryzen chips were definitely much needed and whether you're an Intel or AMD fanboy, you should be happy. For someone that is not loyal to either brand, I'm happy that there is competition in the higher end consumer market.

[3dcandy]

6c 12t is looking like the sweet spot for my next build...

[Myss_tree]

Competition is great though for the average consumer looking for a PC its now become a minefield again.
Basically the "more cores is better" slant will be taken by the sales folk however if your not in need of multi core performance and doing everyday stuff such as surfing, Faecesbook, online shopping, banking, etc then the i3 7350K would be more than ample, probably still excessive.

[3dcandy]

Competition is great though for the average consumer looking for a PC its now become a minefield again.
Basically the "more cores is better" slant will be taken by the sales folk however if your not in need of multi core performance and doing everyday stuff such as surfing, Faecesbook, online shopping, banking, etc then the i3 7350K would be more than ample, probably still excessive.

Yes...but for most of the readers here this makes things interesting again. The cpu market has been stagnant for god knows how many years until this round of releases

[kompukare]

Competition is great though for the average consumer looking for a PC its now become a minefield again.
Basically the "more cores is better" slant will be taken by the sales folk however if your not in need of multi core performance and doing everyday stuff such as surfing, Faecesbook, online shopping, banking, etc then the i3 7350K would be more than ample, probably still excessive.

The 2C/4T i3-7350K is £170 (plus cooler so effectively £190), the Ryzen 5 1400 is £159 including cooler. The i3 needs a Z270 board to overclock (cheapest £90), whereas the cheapest overclocking B350 board is £72.

So totals are:
i3 = £280 (£170 + £20 + £90)
r5 = £231.

So for £50 less you get twice the cores and twice the threads. Now the max overclock of the i3 is around 5GHz whereas the Ryzen 5 should be around 4GHz (in both cases the last 100-200MHz have diminishing returns in terms of heat and power and are probably best left alone) and combined with it's higher IPC (say 15% for ST, MT probably less since AMD's SMT is better than Intel's) should give it a ST performance upto 40% higher than the Ryzen, but a MT performance of at most 71%.

Personally, I'd rather have more cores even if it's only for background tasks. And at £50 less, that i3 looks as overpriced as just about all of Intel's line except for the Kabylake Pentiums: as for those able to live with a max clock of 3.5GHz, the Pentium G4560 (£53) and a cheap B250 board (£59 - in theory a £44 H110 board will do but it requires finding a vendor willing to ensure it's recent stock or to flash the board for you) for a total of £112 is very good value and something AMD can't match (at least for now).