HDR confusion to be quashed by VESA DisplayHDR standards

[HEXUS]

VESA will certify three levels of HDR support; DisplayHDR 400, 600 and 1000.

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[Biscuit]

Bit late...

[excalibur1814]

Thank you for giving the 'marketing' people an excuse to release four new monitors all with stupidly made up price ranges.

-Standard no HDR - Cheapo to silly price
-dHDR 400 - Stupid price but not that bad. But still overpriced.
-dHDR 600 - 'Are you taking the Michael' price?
-dHDR 1000- Sells a kidney and still experiences issues with the new screen.

Let's cut the rubbish for a second. ALL MONITORS could be HDR1000, 144Hz, 100% rgb blah by now. All of them. It's greed and that's about it. The ever slow progression of tech all defined by markets and sales. The list above might have been created for free but it's still a great, big, silly, marketing scheme that's going to cost you, as well as I, a whole load of cash.

[ik9000]

Got to agree, what it needed was for them to say "in order to call it Vesa HDR it needs to meet the top tier requirements, end of." Then the bar gets raised and everyone has to jump to it. Instead it just gives licence for more BS. Like when TVs came out as HD ready because they could do 720i (not even 720p).

[LeetyMcLeet]

Thank you for giving the 'marketing' people an excuse to release four new monitors all with stupidly made up price ranges.

-Standard no HDR - Cheapo to silly price
-dHDR 400 - Stupid price but not that bad. But still overpriced.
-dHDR 600 - 'Are you taking the Michael' price?
-dHDR 1000- Sells a kidney and still experiences issues with the new screen.

Let's cut the rubbish for a second. ALL MONITORS could be HDR1000, 144Hz, 100% rgb blah by now. All of them. It's greed and that's about it. The ever slow progression of tech all defined by markets and sales. The list above might have been created for free but it's still a great, big, silly, marketing scheme that's going to cost you, as well as I, a whole load of cash.

+1 this. Textbook tech company marketing. CPU's and GPU's are the worst for this.

They ought to add micro transactions while they're at it. You buy a display set to HDMI and pay a fee in order to unlock the DisplayPort interface

[Biscuit]

+1 this. Textbook tech company marketing. CPU's and GPU's are the worst for this.

They ought to add micro transactions while they're at it. You buy a display set to HDMI and pay a fee in order to unlock the DisplayPort interface

Dont give them ideas... seriously

[Butcher]

They're not even great standards - the colour gamut is still pretty small and other than dHDR 1000 they're barely better than SDR. :/

[shaithis]

HDR can be nice (I've been playing a lot of Forza 7 and Gran Turismo in HDR) but I can't see myself buying a new monitor for it. If a monitor broke and I was purchasing a replacement, sure...but I don't really see it as a must have feature.

Of course, I doubt I am indicative of the average consumer.

[EvilCycle]

Not HDR related, but monitor related in general - As far as I am concerned we have only recently reached a place where 1080p 60hz is a comfortable standard in regards to gaming (which is why they are now trying to push everyone to 4k, spend a load of money on a monitor that your hardware is going to struggle within a year or so) so until 4k at 144hz is the equivalent to todays 1080p 60hz, then I will not be buying any fancy monitors of any kind, at least I will know my games will run at an acceptable level for a bit longer this way.

[EndlessWaves]

They're not even great standards - the colour gamut is still pretty small and other than dHDR 1000 they're barely better than SDR. :/

They'd be decent standards if the enforcement was up to scratch. 6000:1 contrast and 600cd/m² are good values. That's OLED HDR performance in non-dark scenes and speaking from personal experience that's pretty impressive.

Unfortunately the testing this certification specifies is lax so that an IPS screen with a very crude local dimming system could pass it and such a screen wouldn't achieve anything like those values in the real world.

HDR can be nice (I've been playing a lot of Forza 7 and Gran Turismo in HDR) but I can't see myself buying a new monitor for it. If a monitor broke and I was purchasing a replacement, sure...but I don't really see it as a must have feature.

Of course, I doubt I am indicative of the average consumer.

I'm guessing you're judging based on a mid-range TV that costs ~£800 or less? They don't have much in the way of HDR hardware and to judge the merits of the technology you really need to see it operating on a top of the range TV such as a Sony ZD9, or one of the OLEDs in a dimmer environment.

[shaithis]

I'm guessing you're judging based on a mid-range TV that costs ~£800 or less? They don't have much in the way of HDR hardware and to judge the merits of the technology you really need to see it operating on a top of the range TV such as a Sony ZD9, or one of the OLEDs in a dimmer environment.

I've seen it on the high end stuff as well, which was why I didn't bother with a high-end model

Hell, even at 65", the difference between 1080p and 4k was hard to see without getting too close to the screen, spotting HDR is even harder. When your gaming or engrossed in a film, you are not looking for the differences and then they become almost imperceptible.

[Butcher]

Having seen proper HDR on a screen that could do 1000000:1 contrast and 2000cd/m² without local dimming (oh and REC 2020, it was amazing, also 5 figures); I'm keen for it when it becomes available. These halfway houses VESA have supplied just look a bit too much like 720p as "HD" did to me.

[DanceswithUnix]

Not HDR related, but monitor related in general - As far as I am concerned we have only recently reached a place where 1080p 60hz is a comfortable standard in regards to gaming (which is why they are now trying to push everyone to 4k, spend a load of money on a monitor that your hardware is going to struggle within a year or so) so until 4k at 144hz is the equivalent to todays 1080p 60hz, then I will not be buying any fancy monitors of any kind, at least I will know my games will run at an acceptable level for a bit longer this way.

Which is why I bought a 1440p monitor, for me 27" is the largest I could take on the desk and the dot pitch seemed right. However in the same way that 1080p TV panels took off on computers rather than the better 1200 line 16x10 format I suspect that 4K TV panels will win in the end in which case it would be nice to know just how nasty the HDR support is.